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  • bit101@mstdn.socialB bit101@mstdn.social

    @ariarhythmic @Natasha_Jay Overall, I'm left wondering if the company really was better back then and we changed, or was it just in the interests of the company to act that way and now it is not.

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    @bit101

    Imo it can be a bit of both.
    It couldn't happen if leadership was firm in valuing DEI, but an environment like the one we're living in now takes people who are, uh, not doing their own thinking and makes them worse.

    I genuinely think it was better when companies were doing the motions of DEI, even if leadership was just doing it because everyone was.

    @ariarhythmic @Natasha_Jay

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    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

      A Brand Manager getting ready for Pride Month 🌈

      by Smooth Dunk

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      @Natasha_Jay I can remember only one campaign that still was a moneygrab (that's ok IMO, a company wants to turn a profit), but actually some slight amount of thinking went into it.
      Juvgr fxvggyrf jvgu "qhevat cevqr, bayl bar envaobj znggref" is cute and gets me every time. I buy 'em once they show up in the post-season reduced-to-clear section.

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      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

        A Brand Manager getting ready for Pride Month 🌈

        by Smooth Dunk

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        @Natasha_Jay Our Safeway was setting up the Pride shopping bags yesterday, but hadn't got the prices posted yet.

        Doesn't matter what Target does now, I'm not going back πŸ˜†

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        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

          A Brand Manager getting ready for Pride Month 🌈

          by Smooth Dunk

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          @Natasha_Jay Still, fuck rainbow capitalism. Pride month is ours!

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          • nlupo@amikejo.xyzN nlupo@amikejo.xyz

            @Natasha_Jay Still, fuck rainbow capitalism. Pride month is ours!

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            @nlupo
            Prides have become bloated by pink washing Β£$ which is now dwindling. Back to community led small prides πŸ‘

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            • dianea@lgbtqia.spaceD dianea@lgbtqia.space

              @Natasha_Jay

              the locker room at my company now looks like Pride

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              @dianea @Natasha_Jay whole lotta mesh eh

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              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                A Brand Manager getting ready for Pride Month 🌈

                by Smooth Dunk

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                @Natasha_Jay I don't think corporations can get away with the hypocrisy of throwing up a pride flag and simultaneously donating to anti-LGBTQ+ politicians anymore

                at least I hope not

                I guess it depends how many people with huge follower counts name and shame them

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                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                  A Brand Manager getting ready for Pride Month 🌈

                  by Smooth Dunk

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                  @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt Digging up an old statement I made on Reddit:

                  I'd rather be pandered to one month a year than ignored year round because the people who want me dead are the ones with all the power.

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                  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                    A Brand Manager getting ready for Pride Month 🌈

                    by Smooth Dunk

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                    @Natasha_Jay after completely ignoring the recent agender visibility day, pan visibility day and lesbian visibility week (I'm sure I've missed some)

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                    • wheresalice@woof.techW wheresalice@woof.tech

                      @Natasha_Jay after completely ignoring the recent agender visibility day, pan visibility day and lesbian visibility week (I'm sure I've missed some)

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                      @wheresalice @Natasha_Jay I honestly say that I'm not a supporter of dedicating anything to specific time period. While spreading awareness is definitely very important, it shouldn't be tied to a specific time period and that time period be exclusive to that one cause. We don't have enough months, weeks and days for every single manner that matters.

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                      • bit101@mstdn.socialB bit101@mstdn.social

                        @ariarhythmic @Natasha_Jay the last person who really pushed hard on it was fired. Others were let go or left on their own. Personally, I was asked to stop posting so many questions and issues in our managers channel (not all DEI related). In general we've just gotten very corporate-y and it's all about meeting targets and making deals and money and anything beyond that falls on deaf ears.

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                        @bit101 @Natasha_Jay sounds like a job worth looking for alternatives to

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                          A Brand Manager getting ready for Pride Month 🌈

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                          @Natasha_Jay @geheimorga YOU GOT THIS EUGENE

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                            A Brand Manager getting ready for Pride Month 🌈

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                            @Natasha_Jay Except in UAE xD

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                            • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

                              @bit101 @Natasha_Jay sounds like a job worth looking for alternatives to

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                              @ariarhythmic @Natasha_Jay at this point, the alternative is mostly retirement. And I'm not quite there.

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                              • bit101@mstdn.socialB bit101@mstdn.social

                                @ariarhythmic @Natasha_Jay the last person who really pushed hard on it was fired. Others were let go or left on their own. Personally, I was asked to stop posting so many questions and issues in our managers channel (not all DEI related). In general we've just gotten very corporate-y and it's all about meeting targets and making deals and money and anything beyond that falls on deaf ears.

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                                @bit101 @ariarhythmic @Natasha_Jay Talking to bosses is usually useless. Talking to our colleagues and then making demands/suggestions as a collective is much better

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                                • narf@mstdn.caN narf@mstdn.ca

                                  @bit101 @ariarhythmic @Natasha_Jay Talking to bosses is usually useless. Talking to our colleagues and then making demands/suggestions as a collective is much better

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                                  @narF @bit101 @Natasha_Jay true enough!

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                                  • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

                                    @narF @bit101 @Natasha_Jay true enough!

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                                    @ariarhythmic @narF @Natasha_Jay So, inspired by you all, I reached out to a couple of people in HR (genuinely good people imo) to see if there would be any interest in restarting the DEI group (or whatever we want to call it). Will see...

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                                    • bit101@mstdn.socialB bit101@mstdn.social

                                      @ariarhythmic @narF @Natasha_Jay So, inspired by you all, I reached out to a couple of people in HR (genuinely good people imo) to see if there would be any interest in restarting the DEI group (or whatever we want to call it). Will see...

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                                      @bit101 @ariarhythmic @Natasha_Jay HR is not on your side. HR exist to defend the boss and the company. If the company don't want to do it, HR will delay your requests or ignore them. Worst, they might even punish your for speaking about this topic.

                                      Maybe your company have some genuinely nice HR people but those people usually don't stick around. They either find out they are powerless to bring positive changes in the company, or the company gets rid of them.

                                      Of course I hope that your situation will be different, but I'm just warning you based on my experience.

                                      Good luck!

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                                      • narf@mstdn.caN narf@mstdn.ca

                                        @bit101 @ariarhythmic @Natasha_Jay HR is not on your side. HR exist to defend the boss and the company. If the company don't want to do it, HR will delay your requests or ignore them. Worst, they might even punish your for speaking about this topic.

                                        Maybe your company have some genuinely nice HR people but those people usually don't stick around. They either find out they are powerless to bring positive changes in the company, or the company gets rid of them.

                                        Of course I hope that your situation will be different, but I'm just warning you based on my experience.

                                        Good luck!

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                                        @narF @ariarhythmic @Natasha_Jay perhaps, but it's something. Nobody is doing anything.

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                                        • bit101@mstdn.socialB bit101@mstdn.social

                                          @narF @ariarhythmic @Natasha_Jay perhaps, but it's something. Nobody is doing anything.

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                                          @bit101 Do you feel this is an issue that is shared between your colleagues?

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