Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:
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@JulianOliver yes it's at first idea stage
it is not beyond me to take liberties for an experience that is memorable but maybe not 1:1 with reality.screen is easier, lots of pixels
@twilliability @JulianOliver I would still like to hear it. Maybe with headphones, so the room is not unbearable. Also, there are many ways to sonify it. It could sound like cockroaches walking on paper, for instance
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@JulianOliver yes it's at first idea stage
it is not beyond me to take liberties for an experience that is memorable but maybe not 1:1 with reality.screen is easier, lots of pixels
@twilliability Hehe. Me too. You live coders are good at managing chaos, so perhaps you could find a way to tame it, or pick out certain outlier patterns from these vacuum cleaners. It's true looking at crawler operators with huge swarms that they do shift across IP ranges as they feed, so there's that to play with I guess. OpenAI and Amazon in particular.
You'd get a lot more perceptible detail if you could slow them down but my exp is that if you try & rate limit too much they lose interest!
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Are you still looking for domains?
Somehow www.qaz.red is pointing at 95.216.76.85. Should I add an AAAA record, too?
@elithebearded Oh hey thanks! I'll add it today. An AAAA would be great if you have a moment.
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@elithebearded Oh hey thanks! I'll add it today. An AAAA would be great if you have a moment.
Done. Copied from tender.horse, if it matters
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Done. Copied from tender.horse, if it matters
@elithebearded You are live and listed here
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Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?
If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.
@JulianOliver I think I might have one. Need to check, though.
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@elithebearded You are live and listed here
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Even faster now.
Again, these pages are randomly generated, and each line is a page request from a crawler.
To think of the energy expended at a global scale, the waste. All the money, water & minerals thrown at this. These AI companies are near DoS'ing the human web as they deep-sea trawl our content.
Computationally, infrastructurally, & culturally, it's an obscenity,
- Mum, if you made a chain out of all the endpoint addresses of AI crawlers, how far would it reach?
- All the way to the moon, darling. All the way to the moon.
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- Mum, if you made a chain out of all the endpoint addresses of AI crawlers, how far would it reach?
- All the way to the moon, darling. All the way to the moon.
@JulianOliver indeed
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I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.
I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives
https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt
It is at the same path for all contributed domains.
For instance:
@JulianOliver Thanks is for this!
I added the list to my Crowdsec firewall bouncer, that should block them. Right?
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@JulianOliver Thanks is for this!
I added the list to my Crowdsec firewall bouncer, that should block them. Right?
@jasperbuma It should indeed!
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Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?
If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.
@JulianOliver i could dedicate subdomains such as science.akselmo.dev to this. Just let me know how.
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- Mum, if you made a chain out of all the endpoint addresses of AI crawlers, how far would it reach?
- All the way to the moon, darling. All the way to the moon.
Here's a thing I did in a couple of mins to ban all IPs in the parasites.txt serverside. You could ofc REJECT rather than DROP to send a message.
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#!/bin/bashwhile read parasite;
do
if [[ "$parasite" == *"."* ]]; then
iptables -I INPUT -s "$parasite" -j DROP
elif [[ "$parasite" == *":"* ]]; then
ip6tables -I INPUT -s "$parasite" -j DROP
fi
done < /path/to/parasites.txt
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@tseitr
I'm curious about this also.Edit: if all I need to do is add the A and AAAA records, then the answer could be “yes”.
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Here's a thing I did in a couple of mins to ban all IPs in the parasites.txt serverside. You could ofc REJECT rather than DROP to send a message.
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#!/bin/bashwhile read parasite;
do
if [[ "$parasite" == *"."* ]]; then
iptables -I INPUT -s "$parasite" -j DROP
elif [[ "$parasite" == *":"* ]]; then
ip6tables -I INPUT -s "$parasite" -j DROP
fi
done < /path/to/parasites.txt
---Actual hits dropping slightly, but more data is pulled from the tarpit day on day. This is reflected by a higher proportion of HTTP 200's - so less bad req's. Less reaching for what isn't there, just want the madness.
Unclear why this has changed.
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@tseitr
I'm curious about this also.Edit: if all I need to do is add the A and AAAA records, then the answer could be “yes”.
@dzwiedziu @tseitr Thanks both! Yes as simple as picking any unused domain (canonical or sub) and setting these records to point to the server:
A: 95.216.76.85
AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2Then, DM or toot me the domain. Once set, I'll let you know, and then it's time to share your tarpit domain liberally: link in the footer of your site, landing page a friendly wiki you want to protect, blog post etc.
Ideally should be toward the front of the content.
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@dzwiedziu @tseitr Thanks both! Yes as simple as picking any unused domain (canonical or sub) and setting these records to point to the server:
A: 95.216.76.85
AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2Then, DM or toot me the domain. Once set, I'll let you know, and then it's time to share your tarpit domain liberally: link in the footer of your site, landing page a friendly wiki you want to protect, blog post etc.
Ideally should be toward the front of the content.
@JulianOliver
Then I'll set up mine either very quickly or in a matter of weeks (WIP moving between countries). -
@JulianOliver
Then I'll set up mine either very quickly or in a matter of weeks (WIP moving between countries).@dzwiedziu @tseitr Been there a few times - no rush!
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@retech That's the word for it. Computationally, environmentally, culturally, infrastructurally - an obscenity.
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Here's a thing I did in a couple of mins to ban all IPs in the parasites.txt serverside. You could ofc REJECT rather than DROP to send a message.
---
#!/bin/bashwhile read parasite;
do
if [[ "$parasite" == *"."* ]]; then
iptables -I INPUT -s "$parasite" -j DROP
elif [[ "$parasite" == *":"* ]]; then
ip6tables -I INPUT -s "$parasite" -j DROP
fi
done < /path/to/parasites.txt
---@JulianOliver
block return on egress from <parasites>(in pf)
That's what I'm using and:
@32 block drop in log quick on egress from <parasites:2323> to any
[ Evaluations: 125476 Packets: 351 Bytes: 20702 States: 0 ]
[ Inserted: uid 0 pid 75290 State Creations: 0 ]Not seen much traffic from them on my machine.
