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  3. Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

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  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

    Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

    If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

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    Science is Poetry

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    (julianoliver.com)

    #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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    #95

    @JulianOliver

    Cute idea.
    Entirely useless.
    Feed a "Ai trap" page to Ai and see what happens...

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    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

      @twilliability P.S. I was not considering sonification, rather just a projection piece.

      IMO while plugging into Pure Data, Supercollider etc might seem interesting I honestly think that the rate a properly setup tarpit works you'd practically end up with gabba, or something akin to barely textured noise. If you were monitoring TCP traffic directly, sonifying on Layer 4 or even Layer 3 giving auditory identity to endpoint IPs, it would be pretty intense!

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      #96

      @JulianOliver yes it's at first idea stage 🙂 it is not beyond me to take liberties for an experience that is memorable but maybe not 1:1 with reality.

      screen is easier, lots of pixels

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      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

        Even faster now.

        Again, these pages are randomly generated, and each line is a page request from a crawler.

        To think of the energy expended at a global scale, the waste. All the money, water & minerals thrown at this. These AI companies are near DoS'ing the human web as they deep-sea trawl our content.

        Computationally, infrastructurally, & culturally, it's an obscenity,

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        #97

        @JulianOliver

        Are you still looking for domains?

        Somehow www.qaz.red is pointing at 95.216.76.85. Should I add an AAAA record, too?

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        • twilliability@genart.socialT twilliability@genart.social

          @JulianOliver yes it's at first idea stage 🙂 it is not beyond me to take liberties for an experience that is memorable but maybe not 1:1 with reality.

          screen is easier, lots of pixels

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          #98

          @twilliability @JulianOliver I would still like to hear it. Maybe with headphones, so the room is not unbearable. Also, there are many ways to sonify it. It could sound like cockroaches walking on paper, for instance 😁

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          • twilliability@genart.socialT twilliability@genart.social

            @JulianOliver yes it's at first idea stage 🙂 it is not beyond me to take liberties for an experience that is memorable but maybe not 1:1 with reality.

            screen is easier, lots of pixels

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            #99

            @twilliability Hehe. Me too. You live coders are good at managing chaos, so perhaps you could find a way to tame it, or pick out certain outlier patterns from these vacuum cleaners. It's true looking at crawler operators with huge swarms that they do shift across IP ranges as they feed, so there's that to play with I guess. OpenAI and Amazon in particular.

            You'd get a lot more perceptible detail if you could slow them down but my exp is that if you try & rate limit too much they lose interest!

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            • elithebearded@fed.qaz.redE elithebearded@fed.qaz.red

              @JulianOliver

              Are you still looking for domains?

              Somehow www.qaz.red is pointing at 95.216.76.85. Should I add an AAAA record, too?

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              @elithebearded Oh hey thanks! I'll add it today. An AAAA would be great if you have a moment.

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              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                @elithebearded Oh hey thanks! I'll add it today. An AAAA would be great if you have a moment.

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                #101

                @JulianOliver

                Done. Copied from tender.horse, if it matters

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                • elithebearded@fed.qaz.redE elithebearded@fed.qaz.red

                  @JulianOliver

                  Done. Copied from tender.horse, if it matters

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                  #102

                  @elithebearded You are live and listed here 🙂

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                  SEANCE IS POTTERY

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                  (scienceispoetry.net)

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                  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                    Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                    If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                    Link Preview Image
                    Science is Poetry

                    favicon

                    (julianoliver.com)

                    #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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                    #103

                    @JulianOliver I think I might have one. Need to check, though.

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                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                      @elithebearded You are live and listed here 🙂

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                      SEANCE IS POTTERY

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                      (scienceispoetry.net)

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                      @JulianOliver

                      What a thing of beauty!

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                      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                        Even faster now.

                        Again, these pages are randomly generated, and each line is a page request from a crawler.

                        To think of the energy expended at a global scale, the waste. All the money, water & minerals thrown at this. These AI companies are near DoS'ing the human web as they deep-sea trawl our content.

                        Computationally, infrastructurally, & culturally, it's an obscenity,

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                        #105

                        - Mum, if you made a chain out of all the endpoint addresses of AI crawlers, how far would it reach?

                        - All the way to the moon, darling. All the way to the moon.

                        https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

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                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                          - Mum, if you made a chain out of all the endpoint addresses of AI crawlers, how far would it reach?

                          - All the way to the moon, darling. All the way to the moon.

                          https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

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                          #106

                          @JulianOliver indeed

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                          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                            I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

                            I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

                            https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

                            It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

                            For instance:

                            https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

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                            #107

                            @JulianOliver Thanks is for this!

                            I added the list to my Crowdsec firewall bouncer, that should block them. Right?

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                            • jasperbuma@mstdn.socialJ jasperbuma@mstdn.social

                              @JulianOliver Thanks is for this!

                              I added the list to my Crowdsec firewall bouncer, that should block them. Right?

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                              #108

                              @jasperbuma It should indeed!

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                              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                                If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

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                                Science is Poetry

                                favicon

                                (julianoliver.com)

                                #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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                                @JulianOliver i could dedicate subdomains such as science.akselmo.dev to this. Just let me know how.

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                                • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                  - Mum, if you made a chain out of all the endpoint addresses of AI crawlers, how far would it reach?

                                  - All the way to the moon, darling. All the way to the moon.

                                  https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

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                                  #110

                                  Here's a thing I did in a couple of mins to ban all IPs in the parasites.txt serverside. You could ofc REJECT rather than DROP to send a message.

                                  ---
                                  #!/bin/bash

                                  while read parasite;
                                  do
                                  if [[ "$parasite" == *"."* ]]; then
                                  iptables -I INPUT -s "$parasite" -j DROP
                                  elif [[ "$parasite" == *":"* ]]; then
                                  ip6tables -I INPUT -s "$parasite" -j DROP
                                  fi
                                  done < /path/to/parasites.txt
                                  ---

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                                    #111

                                    @tseitr
                                    I'm curious about this also.

                                    Edit: if all I need to do is add the A and AAAA records, then the answer could be “yes”.

                                    @JulianOliver

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                                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                      Here's a thing I did in a couple of mins to ban all IPs in the parasites.txt serverside. You could ofc REJECT rather than DROP to send a message.

                                      ---
                                      #!/bin/bash

                                      while read parasite;
                                      do
                                      if [[ "$parasite" == *"."* ]]; then
                                      iptables -I INPUT -s "$parasite" -j DROP
                                      elif [[ "$parasite" == *":"* ]]; then
                                      ip6tables -I INPUT -s "$parasite" -j DROP
                                      fi
                                      done < /path/to/parasites.txt
                                      ---

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                                      Actual hits dropping slightly, but more data is pulled from the tarpit day on day. This is reflected by a higher proportion of HTTP 200's - so less bad req's. Less reaching for what isn't there, just want the madness.

                                      Unclear why this has changed.

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                                      • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                                        @tseitr
                                        I'm curious about this also.

                                        Edit: if all I need to do is add the A and AAAA records, then the answer could be “yes”.

                                        @JulianOliver

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                                        @dzwiedziu @tseitr Thanks both! Yes as simple as picking any unused domain (canonical or sub) and setting these records to point to the server:

                                        A: 95.216.76.85
                                        AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

                                        Then, DM or toot me the domain. Once set, I'll let you know, and then it's time to share your tarpit domain liberally: link in the footer of your site, landing page a friendly wiki you want to protect, blog post etc.

                                        Ideally should be toward the front of the content.

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                                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                          @dzwiedziu @tseitr Thanks both! Yes as simple as picking any unused domain (canonical or sub) and setting these records to point to the server:

                                          A: 95.216.76.85
                                          AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

                                          Then, DM or toot me the domain. Once set, I'll let you know, and then it's time to share your tarpit domain liberally: link in the footer of your site, landing page a friendly wiki you want to protect, blog post etc.

                                          Ideally should be toward the front of the content.

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                                          #114

                                          @JulianOliver
                                          Then I'll set up mine either very quickly or in a matter of weeks (WIP moving between countries).

                                          @tseitr

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