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The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

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  • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

    The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

    We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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    The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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    @tom_geraghty "four groups of people, working on the same ship, without any shared and agreed standard."

    This is your typical enterprise in miniature 😁🥴

    Great write-up, Tom.

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    • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

      The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

      We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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      The Vasa

      The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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      @tom_geraghty Fascinating case study to how organizational culture can demand catastrophic failure. I like the twenty sunken Manila galleons also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_galleon

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      • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

        The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

        We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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        The Vasa

        The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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        @tom_geraghty

        Quite an interesting read, thanks! Modern corporations are essentially dictatorships, where an executive can fire someone for anything negative, or really anything at all. Or prevent any future promotions.

        I don't think that's a solvable problem in for-profit corporations.

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        • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

          The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

          We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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          The Vasa

          The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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          @tom_geraghty and with the wonderful progress of time we have come so far that those who know now finally feel safe to speak up while the people who can do something are still not listening. Oh, well… too bad we don’t have 400 more years.

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          • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

            The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

            We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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            The Vasa

            The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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            @tom_geraghty this was one of my favorite museums from my travels in Europe. Very unique

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            • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

              The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

              We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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              The Vasa

              The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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              @tom_geraghty I have visited the Vasa Museum. It is incredible.

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              • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                The Vasa

                The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                👀 @xahteiwi

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                • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                  The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                  We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                  The Vasa

                  The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                  @tom_geraghty I was there in 1993. Unforgettable!

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                  • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                    The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                    We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                    The Vasa

                    The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                    @tom_geraghty Very good article, thanks for posting about it! I’ll definitely share it at work not to point out anything but something to be aware of 😃

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                    • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                      The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                      We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                      The Vasa

                      The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                      @tom_geraghty oooph. The groupthink is strong with that one.

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                      • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                        The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                        We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                        The Vasa

                        The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                        @tom_geraghty 😎 In my career, I've worked on two books—20 years apart—that identified similar issues of mission creep and the inability of lower-level people to right the ship, so to speak.

                        Those are: "Tyranny of Consensus: Discourse and Dissent in National Security Policy," by Janne E. Nolan (2013), and "Narcissistic Process and Corporate Decay: The Theory of the Organizational Ideal," by Howard S. Schwartz (1992).

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                        • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                          The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                          We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                          The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                          @tom_geraghty I've visited Vasamuseet three times and I'd go a fourth time next Stockholm trip!

                          So I had to read that post and boy I was so not disappointed. Very nicely written!

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                          • elasticsoul@mastodon.socialE elasticsoul@mastodon.social

                            @tom_geraghty

                            Quite an interesting read, thanks! Modern corporations are essentially dictatorships, where an executive can fire someone for anything negative, or really anything at all. Or prevent any future promotions.

                            I don't think that's a solvable problem in for-profit corporations.

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                            @elasticsoul @tom_geraghty Oceangate.

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                            • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                              The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                              We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                              The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                              @tom_geraghty they should call ths stockholm syndrome

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                              • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                                The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                                We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                                The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                                @tom_geraghty

                                "It looks like a demonstration ship – one designed to satisfy an ego rather than to perform"

                                ... in other words, a 17th-century Cybertruck?

                                I mainly know about the Vasa because the Swedish post office released a set of stamps in 1969 featuring engravings on the ship and various of its carvings (the stamps themselves were designed by a very famous stamp engraver).

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                                • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                                  The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                                  We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                                  The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                                  That's such a succinct way of putting it.

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                                  • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                                    The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                                    We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                                    The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                                    @tom_geraghty Vasa is probably one of my favorite Swedish artefacts and I love that we have an entire museum dedicated to it. We wouldn't have such a well-preserved ship if it wasn't absolutely dogshit.

                                    Honestly, that makes me think about the way our perception of history might be skewed because the things that survive to get into museums are whatever things people didn't completely use up, and sometimes they didn't use it up because it was terrible.

                                    One example of this I've seen play out is fantasy authors looking at jousting armor for inspiration, cus that's what a lot of museums have. It's not that those armors are terrible for their intended purpose, but it's a little like a far future historical fiction writers putting their 21st century soldiers in Hockey pads and football helmets. Like those are authentic 21st century armor, but it still looks pretty funny to see someone wearing on the battlefield.

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                                    • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                                      The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                                      We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                                      The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                                      @tom_geraghty The two different rulers ... Now where else have we seen that? 🤔😂

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                                      • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                                        The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                                        We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                                        The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                                        @tom_geraghty
                                        Now read this again while thinking about how kings (a.k.a CEOs) are trying to shoehorn AI into everything.

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                                        • tom_geraghty@mastodon.onlineT tom_geraghty@mastodon.online

                                          The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

                                          We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

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                                          The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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                                          @tom_geraghty I visited the Vasa museum last year, and when the tour guide was explaining how failure to listen to the test team led to the sinking, I was having horrible flashbacks to too many (thankfully non-fatal) years in software development...

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