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  4. Each time a new privacy-invasive feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

Each time a new privacy-invasive feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

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  • ratel@mastodon.socialR ratel@mastodon.social

    @nuwagaba2 Yup. Linux was step one. Step two is about politics: I explain and show to them how it works, why this and that app can't ne trusted, and how they can actually use their computer and internet instead of being used by the compagnies behind them. Tough work, not always fruitful, but never vain.

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    @ratel
    I know one day, they'll appreciate the great work that you're did for them. Let's hope that it won't be too late for them to make a change. If I get my own kids, I'll teach them the same things. One thing I can't leave behind is teach them how to grow their own food. Do you have any ideas about that?

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    • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

      @Bowreality
      That's so terrible. We can try our best by informing those who are willing to be informed and save those who are willing to be saved . What do you say about that?

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      #36

      @nuwagaba2 I always do.
      An example: when I heard about the 23andme breach and I knew one of my co-workers had just done it. I told her. And even mentioned the class action lawsuit just in case she is interested. She just shrugged and said she doesn’t “doesn’t lose sleep over it. What would they do with my DNA anyways”. 😬
      I guess they are all old enough. I do my part to say when/why I don’t do stuff and I alert people if I know of breaches. Otherwise they are on their own.

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      • bowreality@mastodon.socialB bowreality@mastodon.social

        @nuwagaba2 I always do.
        An example: when I heard about the 23andme breach and I knew one of my co-workers had just done it. I told her. And even mentioned the class action lawsuit just in case she is interested. She just shrugged and said she doesn’t “doesn’t lose sleep over it. What would they do with my DNA anyways”. 😬
        I guess they are all old enough. I do my part to say when/why I don’t do stuff and I alert people if I know of breaches. Otherwise they are on their own.

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        #37

        @Bowreality
        The work you're doing if alerting people is really great. Many have no chance of getting alerted . Good enough you have done your honest part and now their decisions will determine the consequences of their lives. Did you alert you children also?

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          Each time a new privacy-invasive
          feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

          If each time a new privacy-invasive
          feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

          Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

          It is an act of self-protection but,
          perhaps even more importantly,
          it is also an act of protest.

          A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

          The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

          If we do not refuse,
          if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
          we will lose them all.

          #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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          #38

          @Em0nM4stodon Agreed.

          Don't give up your biometrics.

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          • nakdim@mathstodon.xyzN nakdim@mathstodon.xyz

            @Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord... 😕 What are the alternatives? 😞

            I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!

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            @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon Don't use it.

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            • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

              @Bowreality
              The work you're doing if alerting people is really great. Many have no chance of getting alerted . Good enough you have done your honest part and now their decisions will determine the consequences of their lives. Did you alert you children also?

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              @nuwagaba2 I don’t deal much with kids

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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                Each time a new privacy-invasive
                feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

                If each time a new privacy-invasive
                feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

                Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

                It is an act of self-protection but,
                perhaps even more importantly,
                it is also an act of protest.

                A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

                The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

                If we do not refuse,
                if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                we will lose them all.

                #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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                #41

                What I see is if you don't adopt their tech voluntarily, they will make sure you can't avoid it.

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                • bowreality@mastodon.socialB bowreality@mastodon.social

                  @nuwagaba2 I don’t deal much with kids

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                  #42

                  @Bowreality
                  You made a right decision. The way this world is running crazy, dealing with kids isn't a good idea. Do you know how to grow your own food?

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                  • nakdim@mathstodon.xyzN nakdim@mathstodon.xyz

                    @Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord... 😕 What are the alternatives? 😞

                    I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!

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                    #43

                    @Em0nM4stodon @nakdim People are cancelling paid Discord Nitro subscriptions en masse. Hitting discord straight in the wallet.

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                    • nakdim@mathstodon.xyzN nakdim@mathstodon.xyz

                      @Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord... 😕 What are the alternatives? 😞

                      I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!

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                      @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon
                      https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives
                      @mttaggart

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                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                        Each time a new privacy-invasive
                        feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

                        If each time a new privacy-invasive
                        feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

                        Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

                        It is an act of self-protection but,
                        perhaps even more importantly,
                        it is also an act of protest.

                        A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

                        The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

                        If we do not refuse,
                        if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                        we will lose them all.

                        #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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                        #45

                        @Em0nM4stodon It's bleak. I wish there would be a way to decentralize the internet again.

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                        • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                          @knowprose
                          It's about fighting hunger in my community, I work with 12 young volunteer farmers to make this a reality by growing food for the needy, educating local farmers with advanced agricultural skills to help them improve on their production as well as equipping beginner farmers with required tools like seeds , fertilisers and organic pestcides to help them produce the best out of their gardens as well combat climate change through tree planting. Do you have such initiatives there?

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                          @nuwagaba2 not that I know of. There are stabs at it that have been inconsistent for years.

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                          • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

                            @nuwagaba2 not that I know of. There are stabs at it that have been inconsistent for years.

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                            @knowprose
                            Okay, unfortunately, our initiative is under a crisis where we're having no land to do our activities after being forced to evacuate the land we have rented for two years to do our activities. We're struggling to get our own land amd proceed with our activities to make our dream a reality. You can support is via a gofund.me page below with this link

                            https://gofund.me/3f38fe9d0

                            Would you mind having a video chat someday?

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                            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                              Each time a new privacy-invasive
                              feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

                              If each time a new privacy-invasive
                              feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

                              Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

                              It is an act of self-protection but,
                              perhaps even more importantly,
                              it is also an act of protest.

                              A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

                              The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

                              If we do not refuse,
                              if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                              we will lose them all.

                              #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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                              #48

                              @Em0nM4stodon
                              Opposing is what i did and it worked:
                              https://mastodon.nl/@danie1/116043452309516806

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                              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                Each time a new privacy-invasive
                                feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

                                If each time a new privacy-invasive
                                feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

                                Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

                                It is an act of self-protection but,
                                perhaps even more importantly,
                                it is also an act of protest.

                                A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

                                The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

                                If we do not refuse,
                                if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                                we will lose them all.

                                #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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                                adam@fedi.adamm.cc
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                                @Em0nM4stodon Absolutely spot on with this one. And in regards to the Discord news, which I'm imagining prompted this excellent post, among many other instances of this stuff going on, they can treat me like a teen, and I will treat them with the door.

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                                • ibraen@masto.aiI ibraen@masto.ai

                                  @Em0nM4stodon It's bleak. I wish there would be a way to decentralize the internet again.

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                                  @IbRaen @Em0nM4stodon

                                  the old tools still work and are still receiving improvements

                                  use them

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                                  • nakdim@mathstodon.xyzN nakdim@mathstodon.xyz

                                    @Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord... 😕 What are the alternatives? 😞

                                    I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!

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                                    @nakdim @Em0nM4stodon

                                    discord is not "old school"

                                    IRC is old school, and superior to discord in every way

                                    because it lacks malice

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                                    • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                                      @knowprose
                                      Okay, unfortunately, our initiative is under a crisis where we're having no land to do our activities after being forced to evacuate the land we have rented for two years to do our activities. We're struggling to get our own land amd proceed with our activities to make our dream a reality. You can support is via a gofund.me page below with this link

                                      https://gofund.me/3f38fe9d0

                                      Would you mind having a video chat someday?

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                                      #52

                                      @nuwagaba2 that's what we call a long walk.

                                      Sorry, my donation budget is in the negative. Donald isn't returning my calls right now since I did not buy any Melania tickets, so he will probably deport me.

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                                      • G gerardthornley@hachyderm.io

                                        @Em0nM4stodon I agree with you on the risk, but try telling an 'ordinary' person that and they'll think of you as conspiracy nut. I'm glad to see the message is starting to get through very slowly, but I doubt it's going to stop the current wave of ID 'verification'.
                                        And it's not like there isn't a real risk to children in forums full of strangers. Until there's a social change with regards to that risk, I can't see there being any change of direction with regards to the other.

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                                        froztbyte@mastodon.social
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                                        @GerardThornley @Em0nM4stodon I wrote a small thread reflecting on this, and perhaps it might change your view. Please consider reading it and seeing if it moves your stance: https://mastodon.social/@froztbyte/116042744545154806

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                                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                          Each time a new privacy-invasive
                                          feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.

                                          If each time a new privacy-invasive
                                          feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.

                                          Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.

                                          It is an act of self-protection but,
                                          perhaps even more importantly,
                                          it is also an act of protest.

                                          A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.

                                          The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.

                                          If we do not refuse,
                                          if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
                                          we will lose them all.

                                          #Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights

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                                          @Em0nM4stodon
                                          Years ago, when websites and corporations said, "We track you to give you personalized ads..." I was like "You lost me at the tracking part."

                                          Never considered using biometrics, facial scanning, retina scanning or anything of the like on any device.

                                          These things are not supposed to know me. They're supposed to do a thing when I'm using them and stop doing things until I need to use them again.

                                          All data will get exploited in the Information Age.

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