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AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

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  • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

    AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

    For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

    tedstechtips@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #14

    @firefoxwebdevs This is FANTASTIC! Thank you guys for listening to feedback!

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    • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

      @raymaccarthy about:config isn't intended to be for user settings. That's why we've created a dedicated AI controls page, and we're the first to do so.

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      #15

      @firefoxwebdevs
      You are missing the point!

      The features should not exist! So then no need for a master switch in the main settings.

      Firefox has got so broken it needs loads of settings changed in About.config and even then is LESS USEABLE than 10 or 15 years ago.

      I've been using Websites since 1994. Mosaic, Netscape, Firefox.

      Of course I've used most of the others.

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      • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #16

        @ArneBab it doesn't just disable all existing feature, it also auto-disables future AI features, or 'blocks' them from even appearing in the UI.

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        • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

          AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

          For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

          waxingtonknee@mastodon.org.ukW This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @firefoxwebdevs Too little. Too late.

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          • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

            @firefoxwebdevs "AI is changing the web, and people want very different things from it. We’ve heard from many who want nothing to do with AI. We’ve also heard from others who want AI tools that are genuinely useful."

            Have you? Because I've literally only heard the former. See e.g. virtually every one of the 966 comments on https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/building-ai-the-firefox-way-shaping-what-s-next-together/td-p/109922

            alahmnat@woof.techA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @mike @firefoxwebdevs "AI is changing the web" is also certainly one way of describing the unending tide of SEO-optimized slop coating every surface that's made using the web as a source of information and knowledge virtually impossible.

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            • alahmnat@woof.techA alahmnat@woof.tech

              @mike @firefoxwebdevs "AI is changing the web" is also certainly one way of describing the unending tide of SEO-optimized slop coating every surface that's made using the web as a source of information and knowledge virtually impossible.

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              #19

              @alahmnat @firefoxwebdevs Precisely.

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              • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

                signez@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #20

                @firefoxwebdevs That's awesome, but honestly that feature should have landed months ago. It's sad that it took so long to deliver such a 'simple' feature — it eroded trust needlessly 😞

                I understand it's hard to ship stuff, but we are talking about a toggle in preferences, so it was really frustrating not to see this shipped earlier.

                Also, is that 'scare screen' really necessary? It's the same kind of trick we're always complaining about with FAANG products…

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                • mkj@social.mkj.earthM mkj@social.mkj.earth

                  I know you'll likely get a whole bunch of negative feedback on Fedi for not going even further, but at least this appears to *clearly and unambiguously* put the user in control in a way that does not require digging through about:config settings and worrying about what an upgrade will do. So I am cautiously optimistic about this.

                  Can you say anything about when those of us who are on the ESR update track can expect to see this? Will there be a policy setting to control this?

                  @firefoxwebdevs

                  miller@ruhr.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #21

                  @mkj @firefoxwebdevs policy example:

                  {
                  "policies": {
                  "DisableFirefoxStudies": true,
                  "DisableTelemetry": true,
                  "DontCheckDefaultBrowser": true,
                  "FirefoxHome": {
                  "SponsoredStories": false,
                  "SponsoredTopSites": false,
                  "Stories": false
                  },
                  "GenerativeAI": {
                  "Enabled": false
                  },
                  "SearchEngines": {
                  "Remove": [
                  "Perplexity"
                  ]
                  }
                  }
                  }

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                  • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                    AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                    For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

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                    #22

                    @firefoxwebdevs love it! Its a refreshing alternative to Edge's "shove Copilot down users thought at every opportunity" switch, which I think has only one setting

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                    • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                      AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                      For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

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                      #23

                      @firefoxwebdevs that being said, I actually love having local translation built into thr browser. It seems like the perfect use case for small language models that can be run on most laptops / desktop pcs today. Don't see a need to have the default setting to be off for that

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                      • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                        @firefoxwebdevs
                        You are missing the point!

                        The features should not exist! So then no need for a master switch in the main settings.

                        Firefox has got so broken it needs loads of settings changed in About.config and even then is LESS USEABLE than 10 or 15 years ago.

                        I've been using Websites since 1994. Mosaic, Netscape, Firefox.

                        Of course I've used most of the others.

                        plwt@mstdn.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #24

                        @raymaccarthy @firefoxwebdevs You have never needed to use about:config. You can still quite happily browse the web using Firefox without going into about:config.

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                        • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                          AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                          For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

                          mgeins@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #25

                          @firefoxwebdevs what's about mozconfig.cfg build option?

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                          • dveditz@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #26

                            @ArneBab @firefoxwebdevs

                            some people really like those other features though. Translation is one of our most requested features ever, and we couldn't implement prior to local AI. We weren't going to ship your web pages to some web service so they could see what you browse. But to other folks "AI is AI" and they want it off.

                            Feedback in Nightly is how we figure out if there are too many options or not enough.

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                            • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                              AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                              For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

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                              @firefoxwebdevs the tiny minority of people who choose to use firefox at all dont want AI. it should be off by default if its being shoehorned in anyway, but since mozilla doesnt care the least they could do is not neuter the name.

                              "kill switch" bites, "AI controls" licks

                              EDIT: misread formally as formerly, still dont like this

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                              • miller@ruhr.socialM miller@ruhr.social

                                @mkj @firefoxwebdevs policy example:

                                {
                                "policies": {
                                "DisableFirefoxStudies": true,
                                "DisableTelemetry": true,
                                "DontCheckDefaultBrowser": true,
                                "FirefoxHome": {
                                "SponsoredStories": false,
                                "SponsoredTopSites": false,
                                "Stories": false
                                },
                                "GenerativeAI": {
                                "Enabled": false
                                },
                                "SearchEngines": {
                                "Remove": [
                                "Perplexity"
                                ]
                                }
                                }
                                }

                                mgeins@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #28

                                @miller @mkj @firefoxwebdevs easy way would be to use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/enterprise-policy-generator from https://mastodon.social/@s_hentzschel@agenedia.com

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                                • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                                  AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                                  For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

                                  mausmalone@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #29

                                  @firefoxwebdevs Do you know if there will be a popup to let users know when it launches? (Like a product tour "what's new" type of thing?)

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                                  • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                                    AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                                    For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

                                    thejacenallen@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #30

                                    @firefoxwebdevs boooo. AI shouldnt even be in the browser. Thats what the people told you.

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                                    • madduci@mastodon.socialM madduci@mastodon.social

                                      @firefoxwebdevs please, set the block as active by default and only set AI features as "opt-in"

                                      tay@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #31

                                      @madduci @firefoxwebdevs afaik the default is already opt in in a way - for example, the link summary feature asks you if you want to enable summarisation before actually doing anything.

                                      the point of the block is a browser wide, 'don't even ask' toggle

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                                      • plwt@mstdn.socialP plwt@mstdn.social

                                        @raymaccarthy @firefoxwebdevs You have never needed to use about:config. You can still quite happily browse the web using Firefox without going into about:config.

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                                        @plwt @firefoxwebdevs
                                        The word "happily" is out of context.

                                        I have used Chrome (Android/ChromeOS)_, Edge (windows), IE (various cursed versions on Windows) and Safari (Apple Things) to "browse the web" and get a different browser such as Firefox, seamonkey, Vivaldi, Waterfox, Chromium and others.

                                        I'd be on Vivaldi if about:config didn't exist. The only reason I'm not is more flexible script blocking on Firefox to suit TheGuardian web news.

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                                        • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                                          AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                                          For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

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                                          #33

                                          🗣NOBODY ASKED FOR THIS AI BULLSHIT!!!

                                          you’re traitors to the open web cause. this should have been an extension, not a complete integration in the browser.

                                          @firefoxwebdevs

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