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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    "Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy"

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    Ukraine's president says partners asked if the attacks could be "reduced" as prices soar due to the Iran war.

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    Yeah, fuck that

    Fuck any country in Europe still stuck on #oil and #gas

    Fuck bigot Americans in giant low fuel economy pickup trucks whining

    Fuck you India, Fuck you China

    Fuck you all

    All countries:

    Get the fuck off oil and gas. Period. End of story

    Addressing the #climatecrisis and defunding vile regimes is job #1

    #Zelensky:

    Pulverize #Russia's #energy sector to oblivion

    #UkraineWar

    alanthecampbell@techhub.socialA samiamsam@mastodon.socialS npars01@mstdn.socialN sibshops@mastodon.onlineS drangnon@hachyderm.ioD 12 Replies Last reply
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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      "Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy"

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      Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy

      Ukraine's president says partners asked if the attacks could be "reduced" as prices soar due to the Iran war.

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      Yeah, fuck that

      Fuck any country in Europe still stuck on #oil and #gas

      Fuck bigot Americans in giant low fuel economy pickup trucks whining

      Fuck you India, Fuck you China

      Fuck you all

      All countries:

      Get the fuck off oil and gas. Period. End of story

      Addressing the #climatecrisis and defunding vile regimes is job #1

      #Zelensky:

      Pulverize #Russia's #energy sector to oblivion

      #UkraineWar

      alanthecampbell@techhub.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
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      @benroyce burn all the orc’s energy infrastructure, it’s being used to fund murdering Ukrainian civilians.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        "Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy"

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        Ukraine's president says partners asked if the attacks could be "reduced" as prices soar due to the Iran war.

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        Yeah, fuck that

        Fuck any country in Europe still stuck on #oil and #gas

        Fuck bigot Americans in giant low fuel economy pickup trucks whining

        Fuck you India, Fuck you China

        Fuck you all

        All countries:

        Get the fuck off oil and gas. Period. End of story

        Addressing the #climatecrisis and defunding vile regimes is job #1

        #Zelensky:

        Pulverize #Russia's #energy sector to oblivion

        #UkraineWar

        samiamsam@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @benroyce

        fuck that

        burn russia to the fucking ground

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          "Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy"

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          Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy

          Ukraine's president says partners asked if the attacks could be "reduced" as prices soar due to the Iran war.

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          Yeah, fuck that

          Fuck any country in Europe still stuck on #oil and #gas

          Fuck bigot Americans in giant low fuel economy pickup trucks whining

          Fuck you India, Fuck you China

          Fuck you all

          All countries:

          Get the fuck off oil and gas. Period. End of story

          Addressing the #climatecrisis and defunding vile regimes is job #1

          #Zelensky:

          Pulverize #Russia's #energy sector to oblivion

          #UkraineWar

          npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @benroyce

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          Excellent! Keep hitting Russia's oil infrastructure until Ukraine is whole again.
          https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/03/30/ukraine-russia-putin-zelensky-drones/

          Good job!
          https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/least-40-russias-oil-export-capacity-halted-reuters-calculations-show-2026-03-25/

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            @benroyce

            Ukraine is leading the way on freedom from fossil fuel fascism...

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            Ukraine launched a series of drone attacks on Russia’s top export hubs, including Novorossiysk on the Black Sea as well as Primorsk and Ust-Luga on the Baltic Sea.

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            Huge fires at Russian oil facilities following Ukraine strikes, satellite images show

            BBC Verify examines recent damage to three key Russian oil export facilities near the Baltic Sea.

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            Excellent! Keep hitting Russia's oil infrastructure until Ukraine is whole again.
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/03/30/ukraine-russia-putin-zelensky-drones/

            Good job!
            https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/least-40-russias-oil-export-capacity-halted-reuters-calculations-show-2026-03-25/

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            @Npars01 @benroyce

            Uruguay did what most nations still call impossible: it built a power grid that runs almost entirely on renewables—at half the cost of fossil fuels. The physicist who led that transformation says the same playbook could work anywhere—if governments have the courage to change the rules.

            forbes.com

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              @Npars01 @benroyce

              Uruguay did what most nations still call impossible: it built a power grid that runs almost entirely on renewables—at half the cost of fossil fuels. The physicist who led that transformation says the same playbook could work anywhere—if governments have the courage to change the rules.

              forbes.com

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              @roblosricos @benroyce

              Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                @mike805 @roblosricos @Npars01

                the cost of the climate crisis and vile regimes matter too

                you fund russia, russia kills people, you have a couple of EF5s in nebraska, you kill people

                of course, the "decision makers" don't know or don't care, but that remains the truth

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                  @mike805 @roblosricos @Npars01

                  you're still going to consume fossil fuels no matter what

                  obviously if you get the civilian transportation and heating infrastructure off it you make a big dent. make it cheaper too

                  the goal isn't perfection mike, that's an invalid perspective

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                    @mike805 @roblosricos @Npars01 @benroyce

                    Most petro-state's primary benefit from having fossil fuels is the ability to export them. If the non petro-states transition to renewables (which provides both environmental and national security benefits to them) it cuts off the export markets the petro-states rely on and that will force the petro-states to adopt green technology in turn.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      "Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy"

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                      Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy

                      Ukraine's president says partners asked if the attacks could be "reduced" as prices soar due to the Iran war.

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                      Yeah, fuck that

                      Fuck any country in Europe still stuck on #oil and #gas

                      Fuck bigot Americans in giant low fuel economy pickup trucks whining

                      Fuck you India, Fuck you China

                      Fuck you all

                      All countries:

                      Get the fuck off oil and gas. Period. End of story

                      Addressing the #climatecrisis and defunding vile regimes is job #1

                      #Zelensky:

                      Pulverize #Russia's #energy sector to oblivion

                      #UkraineWar

                      sibshops@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @benroyce Maybe this is a sign to get off of fossil fuels.

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                      • sibshops@mastodon.onlineS sibshops@mastodon.online

                        @benroyce Maybe this is a sign to get off of fossil fuels.

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                        #11

                        @Sibshops

                        yes of course

                        fossil fuels fund vile regimes

                        and there's climate change

                        but even if we forget morality or good strategy: it's fucking cheaper

                        the problem is it requires investment

                        our stupid fucking governments would rather suckle at the teat of fossil fuel money and maintain the status quo, rather than prepare for the future that is coming no matter their indolent heel dragging and corruption

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          "Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy"

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                          Ukraine's president says partners asked if the attacks could be "reduced" as prices soar due to the Iran war.

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                          Yeah, fuck that

                          Fuck any country in Europe still stuck on #oil and #gas

                          Fuck bigot Americans in giant low fuel economy pickup trucks whining

                          Fuck you India, Fuck you China

                          Fuck you all

                          All countries:

                          Get the fuck off oil and gas. Period. End of story

                          Addressing the #climatecrisis and defunding vile regimes is job #1

                          #Zelensky:

                          Pulverize #Russia's #energy sector to oblivion

                          #UkraineWar

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                          @benroyce how unamerican of you

                          > Fuck any country in Europe still stuck on #oil and #gas

                          Think instead of the Opportunity, to invest in infrastructure build out for electric cars, or to profit from introducing heat pumps and mini splits in hundreds year old buildings

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                          Can't decide if I'm sarcastic here or not, hm

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                          • drangnon@hachyderm.ioD drangnon@hachyderm.io

                            @benroyce how unamerican of you

                            > Fuck any country in Europe still stuck on #oil and #gas

                            Think instead of the Opportunity, to invest in infrastructure build out for electric cars, or to profit from introducing heat pumps and mini splits in hundreds year old buildings

                            .
                            .
                            .
                            Can't decide if I'm sarcastic here or not, hm

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                            @draNgNon 😂

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              "Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy"

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                              Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy

                              Ukraine's president says partners asked if the attacks could be "reduced" as prices soar due to the Iran war.

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                              Yeah, fuck that

                              Fuck any country in Europe still stuck on #oil and #gas

                              Fuck bigot Americans in giant low fuel economy pickup trucks whining

                              Fuck you India, Fuck you China

                              Fuck you all

                              All countries:

                              Get the fuck off oil and gas. Period. End of story

                              Addressing the #climatecrisis and defunding vile regimes is job #1

                              #Zelensky:

                              Pulverize #Russia's #energy sector to oblivion

                              #UkraineWar

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                              @benroyce wtf?

                              With "allies" like that, who needs enemies?

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                "Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy"

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                                Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy

                                Ukraine's president says partners asked if the attacks could be "reduced" as prices soar due to the Iran war.

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                                Yeah, fuck that

                                Fuck any country in Europe still stuck on #oil and #gas

                                Fuck bigot Americans in giant low fuel economy pickup trucks whining

                                Fuck you India, Fuck you China

                                Fuck you all

                                All countries:

                                Get the fuck off oil and gas. Period. End of story

                                Addressing the #climatecrisis and defunding vile regimes is job #1

                                #Zelensky:

                                Pulverize #Russia's #energy sector to oblivion

                                #UkraineWar

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                                @benroyce Funny how the short term pain for long term gain guys currently gassing about the Usraeli war on Iran don't seem to think it applies to oil.
                                I wonder why that could be?

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                                • roblosricos@mastodon.socialR roblosricos@mastodon.social

                                  @Npars01 @benroyce

                                  Uruguay did what most nations still call impossible: it built a power grid that runs almost entirely on renewables—at half the cost of fossil fuels. The physicist who led that transformation says the same playbook could work anywhere—if governments have the courage to change the rules.

                                  forbes.com

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                                  @roblosricos @Npars01 @benroyce

                                  It’s a nice piece. But Forbes avoids mentioning that the interviewee, “Energy Minister from 2008 to 2015”, was a member of a Broad Front government.

                                  As China continues to show, strong socialist policies support converting to renewables. Meanwhile, free market economies support what the powerful industrialists prefer.

                                  Want Greener policies? Get a more socialist government!

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                                  • tattered@social.vivaldi.netT tattered@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @roblosricos @Npars01 @benroyce

                                    It’s a nice piece. But Forbes avoids mentioning that the interviewee, “Energy Minister from 2008 to 2015”, was a member of a Broad Front government.

                                    As China continues to show, strong socialist policies support converting to renewables. Meanwhile, free market economies support what the powerful industrialists prefer.

                                    Want Greener policies? Get a more socialist government!

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                                    @Tattered @roblosricos @Npars01

                                    i wouldn't agree with china as a depiction of socialism. more like capitalist totalitarianism. a smart one, for now. but all authoritarianism goes one way in the end, one way or another

                                    you do understand that china is capitalist, yes?

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @Sibshops

                                      yes of course

                                      fossil fuels fund vile regimes

                                      and there's climate change

                                      but even if we forget morality or good strategy: it's fucking cheaper

                                      the problem is it requires investment

                                      our stupid fucking governments would rather suckle at the teat of fossil fuel money and maintain the status quo, rather than prepare for the future that is coming no matter their indolent heel dragging and corruption

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                                      they're building bunkers and stockpiling food and water and fuel and arms

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                                        @Tattered @roblosricos @Npars01

                                        i wouldn't agree with china as a depiction of socialism. more like capitalist totalitarianism. a smart one, for now. but all authoritarianism goes one way in the end, one way or another

                                        you do understand that china is capitalist, yes?

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                                        @benroyce @roblosricos @Npars01

                                        I understand.

                                        I am very sympathetic to Xi. I lived in rural Western China for a year and I saw the effects of his policies on ordinary people. The reopening of the Shanghai stock exchange was by his predecessor. Xi has taken the revenue generated and poured it into public projects, aimed at lifting people out of poverty; cheaper energy, cheaper and more efficient public transport, government subsidies for opening mom & pop stores, fixed prices for food, and so on.

                                        I often repeat the point that Xi knows what it’s like to go to school without shoes. I honestly believe that his support for the nation’s poorest people is heartfelt and genuine.

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                                          @benroyce @roblosricos @Npars01

                                          I understand.

                                          I am very sympathetic to Xi. I lived in rural Western China for a year and I saw the effects of his policies on ordinary people. The reopening of the Shanghai stock exchange was by his predecessor. Xi has taken the revenue generated and poured it into public projects, aimed at lifting people out of poverty; cheaper energy, cheaper and more efficient public transport, government subsidies for opening mom & pop stores, fixed prices for food, and so on.

                                          I often repeat the point that Xi knows what it’s like to go to school without shoes. I honestly believe that his support for the nation’s poorest people is heartfelt and genuine.

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                                          @benroyce @roblosricos @Npars01 One of my brighter students referred to China’s economy as “managed free market”. It’s a lovely tongue in cheek observation.

                                          Further, I grew up in a capitalist UK economy that coexisted with a socialist welfare state. Aspects of Xi’s China have some similarities to mid 20th century UK Labour attempts at a halfway house. Fortunately, China doesn’t have a Tory Party dominating the national media, so the social projects should last longer.

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