Point 1: none, including first, are even synonymous with "fossil".
Point 2: all except NH3 remove CO2 from atmosphere.

Using solar for civilian power to free up oil and gas for military preparedness is a good idea.

This fuel shortage will make small scale panel and battery systems very popular in places where people used to use generators. That will have benefits after it's over.

fuck green utopia

we're just talking about transitioning off fossil fuels, which will never be 100%

please stop using some vision of perfection as a basis for your words. it's not honest about what the real topic is here

if we make russia be able to field only 10 tanks instead of 100, that matters. that's the point of *transition*. fuck perfection

Green utopia, if it ever exists, will have to figure out how to defend itself against such people. Because both warlike pricks and the dinosaur juice to power their forces will always exist.

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Probably more than double. There is no clean tech on an explosion.

They can spend on either security forces to keep a boot on the public's neck, or handouts to keep them pacified, or some mixture. The rest they just use to live large.

They also spend money to manipulate politics elsewhere and keep that game going. The USA is easy to manipulate with money.

sure but this is whimsical poetical musings of vague echoes, not contemporary hard political realities

what you refer to is ancient echoes. it's an aspect of cultural roots. what that has to do with the political sphere is extremely obscure to the point of irrelevancy

china being totalitarian capitalist doesn't have anything to do with the song dynasty's struggles with the jin dynasty

We still have bits of Rome under the Norman underlay, and the various seepages.

And it doesn't take me long to get to something from a long time before Rome came here, although how many cultural elements from then hang on. Footpaths and plantings do.

and russia is aiming at apartment buildings

of course, as a culture

but we speak of "china" in this context in terms of it as a political entity, which only dates to 1949

and the shift that led to its embrace of capitalism and its economic rise is even more recent, 1978 and deng xiaoping

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