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Telling people to use WhatsApp over Signal, or in conjunction with Signal, is stupid.

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  • mannanan@mas.toM mannanan@mas.to

    @bjmendelson

    You couldn't pay me to trust Signal, either.

    bjmendelson@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    bjmendelson@mastodon.social
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    @Mannanan Well that's the other thing. Session is better, sure. But. In having trained people hands on, I can tell you Signal is a lot easier for them to use. So that's the one I tell people to START with, not end with.

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    • bjmendelson@mastodon.socialB bjmendelson@mastodon.social

      Telling people to use WhatsApp over Signal, or in conjunction with Signal, is stupid.

      PLEASE do not use ANYTHING owned by Meta for resistance work.

      I promise you, whatever excuse or reason you're thinking of does NOT matter. You are not safe using Meta products. Period.

      #privacy #activism #security

      thinkb4coding@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      thinkb4coding@mastodon.social
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      @bjmendelson @delta is an awesome alternative.
      No registration, decentralized, based on existing protocols.
      Easy to install, to connect and to use on multiple devices.

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      • bjmendelson@mastodon.socialB bjmendelson@mastodon.social

        Telling people to use WhatsApp over Signal, or in conjunction with Signal, is stupid.

        PLEASE do not use ANYTHING owned by Meta for resistance work.

        I promise you, whatever excuse or reason you're thinking of does NOT matter. You are not safe using Meta products. Period.

        #privacy #activism #security

        nando161@partyon.xyzN This user is from outside of this forum
        nando161@partyon.xyzN This user is from outside of this forum
        nando161@partyon.xyz
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        #10

        @bjmendelson https://prism-break.org/en/

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        • bjmendelson@mastodon.socialB bjmendelson@mastodon.social

          Telling people to use WhatsApp over Signal, or in conjunction with Signal, is stupid.

          PLEASE do not use ANYTHING owned by Meta for resistance work.

          I promise you, whatever excuse or reason you're thinking of does NOT matter. You are not safe using Meta products. Period.

          #privacy #activism #security

          bri7@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
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          bri7@social.treehouse.systems
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          @bjmendelson did whatsapp stop automatically downloading your contacts address book or?

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          • bjmendelson@mastodon.socialB bjmendelson@mastodon.social

            Telling people to use WhatsApp over Signal, or in conjunction with Signal, is stupid.

            PLEASE do not use ANYTHING owned by Meta for resistance work.

            I promise you, whatever excuse or reason you're thinking of does NOT matter. You are not safe using Meta products. Period.

            #privacy #activism #security

            A This user is from outside of this forum
            A This user is from outside of this forum
            anonleftist@mstdn.plus
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            #12

            @bjmendelson

            Molly > Signal

            @mollyim

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              anonleftist@mstdn.plus
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              @condret @bjmendelson u need updates if u want security. What a stupid sentence?

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              • nando161@partyon.xyzN nando161@partyon.xyz

                @bjmendelson https://prism-break.org/en/

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                anonleftist@mstdn.plus
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                #14

                @nando161 @bjmendelson prism break is not a good source.

                Lurk soatok/privacyguides for more up-to-date resources.

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                • bjmendelson@mastodon.socialB bjmendelson@mastodon.social

                  Telling people to use WhatsApp over Signal, or in conjunction with Signal, is stupid.

                  PLEASE do not use ANYTHING owned by Meta for resistance work.

                  I promise you, whatever excuse or reason you're thinking of does NOT matter. You are not safe using Meta products. Period.

                  #privacy #activism #security

                  bob@beamship.mpaq.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                  bob@beamship.mpaq.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                  bob@beamship.mpaq.org
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                  @bjmendelson and self host!!! We at MPAQ host our own xmpp and a voip 😋 channeled on a vpn lol

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                  • bjmendelson@mastodon.socialB bjmendelson@mastodon.social

                    @Mannanan Well that's the other thing. Session is better, sure. But. In having trained people hands on, I can tell you Signal is a lot easier for them to use. So that's the one I tell people to START with, not end with.

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                    marcin_kras@mastodon.social
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                    @bjmendelson @Mannanan what about Matrix/Element? Is Session really the golden standard?

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                      @condret @bjmendelson just another stupid sentence.

                      Don't cry here if you get hacked or something.

                      U either get the latest updates or u don't use tech in 2026.

                      The most bigoted shit that I heard until today.

                      You're simply talking like an average digdeeper reader.

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                      • bjmendelson@mastodon.socialB bjmendelson@mastodon.social

                        Telling people to use WhatsApp over Signal, or in conjunction with Signal, is stupid.

                        PLEASE do not use ANYTHING owned by Meta for resistance work.

                        I promise you, whatever excuse or reason you're thinking of does NOT matter. You are not safe using Meta products. Period.

                        #privacy #activism #security

                        iveyline@mastodon.nzI This user is from outside of this forum
                        iveyline@mastodon.nzI This user is from outside of this forum
                        iveyline@mastodon.nz
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                        @bjmendelson Agreed.

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                        • mishavelthuis@social.edu.nlM mishavelthuis@social.edu.nl

                          @bjmendelson I would never tell people to use WhatsApp. But I would tell people they can *also* use Signal, *even if* for whatever (misguided) reason they can't leave WhatsApp.

                          https://folkdata.se/en/plus-one/

                          publicwondering@mastodon.me.ukP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #19

                          @MishaVelthuis @bjmendelson this is right. I only use signal, but asking people to make that leap in one go will result in a lot of resistance.

                          Good for people to be able to try signal and find out how good it is, at least have some secure conversations and maybe eventually delete WhatsApp later.

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