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  3. The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years.

The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years.

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  • paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.orgP paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org

    @gcluley

    Switzerland is showing the way, while making some very reasonable points.

    I suspect the rest of Europe will follow. The UK, I am not so sure.

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    @ParadeGrotesque @gcluley I hope you're right but Denmark’s security state is structurally dependent on Palantir as I understand it.

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      @miguelpergamon @gcluley
      Ask Red Ed about his recent China trip. See how you get on.
      The handshake is public...

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      • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

        The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

        - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
        - Potential loss of national sovereignty
        - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

        Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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        @gcluley And for some customers: Dependence on foreign specialists in everyday operations. In a DW documentary about Palantir, a German police official points to an empty office and proudly explains that the Palantir workers commute from several countries, flying in on Mondays, heading home Fridays.

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        • sdowe@mastodon.socialS sdowe@mastodon.social

          @gcluley my local NHS "Trust" has signed one of those contracts with Palatir. I'm genuinely at a loss as to what healthcare option there is, if I don't want my subject data with them.

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          @sdowe @gcluley some trusts have signed and assume paid but not using the software yet 🤞🏾💪🏽

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          • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

            Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

            Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

            Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

            What do you think?

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            @gcluley I think we have a government and Civil Service oblivious to the risks.

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            • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

              The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

              - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
              - Potential loss of national sovereignty
              - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

              Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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              @gcluley
              But Luke Pollard, Minister for Defence Readiness and Industry (degree in Politics from Exeter, and clearly an expert on cyber-security) assures us there is no possible problem with giving all the UK’s MoD data to Palantir…

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              • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                @gcluley “Analytics company.” That’s the biggest euphemism of the year (so far.) 😂

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                • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                  The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                  - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                  - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                  - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                  Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                  @gcluley Very sensible. Especially as Thiel is involved in Palantir A warning sign to everyone!

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                  • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                    The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                    - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                    - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                    - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                    Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                    @gcluley
                    Switzerland actually has some decent IT systems & services & likely do not need Palantir at all (and ultimately, NO-one does!). Maybe the UK doesn't have the alternative? 🤷

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                      @Npars01 @ParadeGrotesque @gcluley
                      ...and they have their balls in a Zionist vice.

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