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The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years.

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    The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

    - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
    - Potential loss of national sovereignty
    - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

    Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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    • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

      The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

      - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
      - Potential loss of national sovereignty
      - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

      Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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      Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

      Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

      Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

      What do you think?

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      • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

        Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

        Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

        Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

        What do you think?

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        @gcluley

        Switzerland is showing the way, while making some very reasonable points.

        I suspect the rest of Europe will follow. The UK, I am not so sure.

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        • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

          Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

          Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

          Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

          What do you think?

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          pl@cosocial.caP This user is from outside of this forum
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          @gcluley don't you just hate it when your bribe cheque bounces

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          • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

            Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

            Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

            Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

            What do you think?

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            ag_tn21@mastodon.greenA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @gcluley Palantir? Steer well clear.

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            • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

              Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

              Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

              Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

              What do you think?

              2/2

              g0lfp@mastodon.radioG This user is from outside of this forum
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              @gcluley

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              • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                What do you think?

                2/2

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                @gcluley

                What do I think?

                I think it's wise to follow the money:

                Peter Thiel and Larry Ellison are two of the biggest donors to the Tony Blair Institute, the grifting machine that is controlling the 'Labour' government.

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                • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                  The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                  - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                  - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                  - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                  Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                  @gcluley@mastodon.green

                  - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                  I don't know that Theil particularly cares about America, at least not its government. He's a neo-fuedalist. His fuckery is more towards advancing those aspirations than specifically providing benefit to the US government. Meaning, I think the bigger risk is less the US IC, specifically, than that Theil would happily sell one country's information to another "for the right price" if it advanced his overarching neo-feudalist goals.

                  ...which is to say, if China or India were to offer him a neo-feudalist paradise within their borders in exchange for any given country's information — even the US's — he'd sell the target countries out in a heartbeat.

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                  • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                    The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                    - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                    - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                    - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                    Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                    @gcluley Bravo!! 👏

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                    • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                      The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                      - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                      - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                      - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                      Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                      @gcluley my local NHS "Trust" has signed one of those contracts with Palatir. I'm genuinely at a loss as to what healthcare option there is, if I don't want my subject data with them.

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                      • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                        Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                        Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                        Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                        What do you think?

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                        @gcluley While you should never rely on another entity's decision, if other companies/countries are publicly rejecting vendors then it should raise red flags

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                        • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                          Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                          Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                          Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                          What do you think?

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                          @gcluley UK was always an US slave that obey it's master.

                          And now they don't have EU tie, they return to their Full slave yes yes decision.

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                          • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                            The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                            - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                            - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                            - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                            Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                            @gcluley

                            Not wanting to associate with literal nazis should be in the list of reasons

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                            • paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.orgP paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org

                              @gcluley

                              Switzerland is showing the way, while making some very reasonable points.

                              I suspect the rest of Europe will follow. The UK, I am not so sure.

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                              @ParadeGrotesque @gcluley

                              Like the USA, politics in the UK are overly entwined with The Moneyed, white supremacy, and fossil fuel funded fascists.

                              The wealthy are determined to fry both democracy itself, along with the planet.

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                              • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                                Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                                Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                                Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                                What do you think?

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                                @gcluley

                                The NHS using Palantir is scary. At least it would scare me if I lived in the UK.

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                                • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                                  Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                                  Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                                  Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                                  What do you think?

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                                  @gcluley Carole Cadwalladr has been ringing this alarm for years, hopefully more will take up the task

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                                  Peter Thiel's New Model Army

                                  The Palantirisation of the UK military is a national security disaster

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                                  • gypsyvegan@sfba.socialG gypsyvegan@sfba.social

                                    @gcluley Carole Cadwalladr has been ringing this alarm for years, hopefully more will take up the task

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                                    Peter Thiel's New Model Army

                                    The Palantirisation of the UK military is a national security disaster

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                                    @gypsyvegan @gcluley "If our national security rests on US technology, we have no national security." This applies just as much for us here in Australia.

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                                    • ooze@wirejunkie.netO ooze@wirejunkie.net

                                      @gypsyvegan @gcluley "If our national security rests on US technology, we have no national security." This applies just as much for us here in Australia.

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                                      @Ooze @gypsyvegan @gcluley
                                      Greetings stranger.
                                      Did you know Australia has been a US vassal for the past half century?
                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis

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                                      • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                                        The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                                        - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                                        - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                                        - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                                        Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                                        @gcluley there never was a contract. They never signed a contract with Palantir, so there’s nothing to end.

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                                        • gcluley@mastodon.greenG gcluley@mastodon.green

                                          Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                                          Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                                          Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                                          What do you think?

                                          2/2

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                                          @gcluley I think, you’re right.

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