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Perhaps those "skeptics", like the "climate skeptics" we have also endired over 20 years, weren't actually "skeptical" at all.

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  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC This user is from outside of this forum
    chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC This user is from outside of this forum
    chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca
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    Perhaps those "skeptics", like the "climate skeptics" we have also endired over 20 years, weren't actually "skeptical" at all. They were just fossil fuel industry talking heads and plants, paid or brain washed or both to ensure Fossil Fuels were never without a cheerleader.

    "A new large‑scale UK dataset suggests EV batteries are holding up far better than many skeptics expected."

    #enfossilfuels #climateEmergency #bcpoli #canpoli https://electrek.co/2026/02/18/most-ev-batteries-outlast-their-cars-real-world-data-shows/

    mark@canuck.socialM cjgyt@cosocial.caC jfmezei@cosocial.caJ davidm_yeg@beige.partyD alison@beige.partyA 6 Replies Last reply
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    • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

      Perhaps those "skeptics", like the "climate skeptics" we have also endired over 20 years, weren't actually "skeptical" at all. They were just fossil fuel industry talking heads and plants, paid or brain washed or both to ensure Fossil Fuels were never without a cheerleader.

      "A new large‑scale UK dataset suggests EV batteries are holding up far better than many skeptics expected."

      #enfossilfuels #climateEmergency #bcpoli #canpoli https://electrek.co/2026/02/18/most-ev-batteries-outlast-their-cars-real-world-data-shows/

      mark@canuck.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @chris I just junked my 2012 honda insight with 350k on it and people told me back when i bought it that the hybrid battery would have to be replaced after a few years and it would cost a fortune. it was still well above 80% health when it was junked. Don't believe the FUD, there HAVE been some bad apples (like the Leaf) that gave EVs a black eye but those are old tales.

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      • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

        Perhaps those "skeptics", like the "climate skeptics" we have also endired over 20 years, weren't actually "skeptical" at all. They were just fossil fuel industry talking heads and plants, paid or brain washed or both to ensure Fossil Fuels were never without a cheerleader.

        "A new large‑scale UK dataset suggests EV batteries are holding up far better than many skeptics expected."

        #enfossilfuels #climateEmergency #bcpoli #canpoli https://electrek.co/2026/02/18/most-ev-batteries-outlast-their-cars-real-world-data-shows/

        cjgyt@cosocial.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @chris And hopefully a means of recycling those batteries is developed too, making electric vehicles a better investment. Every so often I think about replacing my car with an electric vehicle… but it’s 11 years-old and barely over 53,000 km—so replacing it would be a terrible choice footprint-wise!

        sanderde@mstdn.caS sleepy62@social.vivaldi.netS 2 Replies Last reply
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        • cjgyt@cosocial.caC cjgyt@cosocial.ca

          @chris And hopefully a means of recycling those batteries is developed too, making electric vehicles a better investment. Every so often I think about replacing my car with an electric vehicle… but it’s 11 years-old and barely over 53,000 km—so replacing it would be a terrible choice footprint-wise!

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          @cjgyt

          The batteries can be used for utility solar and wind power storage.

          @chris

          https://www.aceee.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/repurposing_ev_batteries_for_second-life_stationary_storage_-_market_landscape_and_key_challenges.pdf

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            @cjgyt

            The batteries can be used for utility solar and wind power storage.

            @chris

            https://www.aceee.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/repurposing_ev_batteries_for_second-life_stationary_storage_-_market_landscape_and_key_challenges.pdf

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            @Sanderde @cjgyt @chris I was babysitting a 2018 Nissan Leaf last week, and mulling over the slightly inadequate range for the trip back to its home.

            You can get a 62kWh replacement battery for it, extending the range to ~380km (355kg means having access to appropriate equipment for the swap, but the swap itself wasn't an awful process).

            For $2k I also found a battery rack into which you can bolt your 40kWh of old Leaf batteries and power your house.

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            • cjgyt@cosocial.caC cjgyt@cosocial.ca

              @chris And hopefully a means of recycling those batteries is developed too, making electric vehicles a better investment. Every so often I think about replacing my car with an electric vehicle… but it’s 11 years-old and barely over 53,000 km—so replacing it would be a terrible choice footprint-wise!

              sleepy62@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cjgyt @chris

              Thats true. If you don't drive much then any car is a waste. But on the topic of battery recycling it is already happening. The battery makers are anticipating the "black mass" from old batteries to be a big part of future production.

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              • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                Perhaps those "skeptics", like the "climate skeptics" we have also endired over 20 years, weren't actually "skeptical" at all. They were just fossil fuel industry talking heads and plants, paid or brain washed or both to ensure Fossil Fuels were never without a cheerleader.

                "A new large‑scale UK dataset suggests EV batteries are holding up far better than many skeptics expected."

                #enfossilfuels #climateEmergency #bcpoli #canpoli https://electrek.co/2026/02/18/most-ev-batteries-outlast-their-cars-real-world-data-shows/

                jfmezei@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @chris In fairness, the chemistry in the batteries is not eternal, and from the day fo their manufacure, they start to lose capacity due to the chemicals starting to react. This has always been kown. This is separare to the loss of capacity with each charge/discharge cycle. So itis correct to have worries about longevity of batteries in cars. However, it appears they improved the chemistry to last longer, much longer.

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                • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                  Perhaps those "skeptics", like the "climate skeptics" we have also endired over 20 years, weren't actually "skeptical" at all. They were just fossil fuel industry talking heads and plants, paid or brain washed or both to ensure Fossil Fuels were never without a cheerleader.

                  "A new large‑scale UK dataset suggests EV batteries are holding up far better than many skeptics expected."

                  #enfossilfuels #climateEmergency #bcpoli #canpoli https://electrek.co/2026/02/18/most-ev-batteries-outlast-their-cars-real-world-data-shows/

                  davidm_yeg@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @chris

                  That’s good news, but not surprising: on a while range of issues from solar panels to EV batteries to nuclear power, there’s a pattern of energy industry shills talking things up or down depending on how they align with industry interests. Once you see it it’s pretty easy to recognize.

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                  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                    Perhaps those "skeptics", like the "climate skeptics" we have also endired over 20 years, weren't actually "skeptical" at all. They were just fossil fuel industry talking heads and plants, paid or brain washed or both to ensure Fossil Fuels were never without a cheerleader.

                    "A new large‑scale UK dataset suggests EV batteries are holding up far better than many skeptics expected."

                    #enfossilfuels #climateEmergency #bcpoli #canpoli https://electrek.co/2026/02/18/most-ev-batteries-outlast-their-cars-real-world-data-shows/

                    alison@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @chris But if you have to, bend over.

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                    • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                      Perhaps those "skeptics", like the "climate skeptics" we have also endired over 20 years, weren't actually "skeptical" at all. They were just fossil fuel industry talking heads and plants, paid or brain washed or both to ensure Fossil Fuels were never without a cheerleader.

                      "A new large‑scale UK dataset suggests EV batteries are holding up far better than many skeptics expected."

                      #enfossilfuels #climateEmergency #bcpoli #canpoli https://electrek.co/2026/02/18/most-ev-batteries-outlast-their-cars-real-world-data-shows/

                      jameshowell@fediscience.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @chris Sorry, old pedant here, chiming in to complain about having endured climate skeptics for forty years, carry on

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