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So many tech bros are coming at me right now arguing that yes, in fact, Windows users or Facebook users don't deserve privacy.

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  • veronica@explains.socialV veronica@explains.social

    So many tech bros are coming at me right now arguing that yes, in fact, Windows users or Facebook users don't deserve privacy.

    Busting out the bold markdown for this: you're wrong.

    Everyone deserves privacy.

    veronica@explains.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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    "If you use Facebook, you know what they're doing."

    I don't care. You still deserve privacy. Full stop.

    mrnnki@problemeowtic.netM scanner@apricot.socialS oli@olifant.socialO 3 Replies Last reply
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    • veronica@explains.socialV veronica@explains.social

      "If you use Facebook, you know what they're doing."

      I don't care. You still deserve privacy. Full stop.

      mrnnki@problemeowtic.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @veronica@explains.social

      your grandma who uses Facebook and doesn't know the difference between Meta and Google probably doesn't know, actually, and grandma deserves privacy too

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      • veronica@explains.socialV veronica@explains.social

        "If you use Facebook, you know what they're doing."

        I don't care. You still deserve privacy. Full stop.

        scanner@apricot.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @veronica I have a lot of family that use facebook. Our family is scatter all over the US and sometimes all over the world. Facebook offers them a stay in touch in a very rich way. It also funnels them garbage, and puts them at risk. These people may or may not know this and just yelling at them that they deserve what they get for being able to enjoy pictures that their grand children send them is wrong.

        tl;dr - you are absolutely right. They deserve privacy. Facebook (windows, etc)

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        • veronica@explains.socialV veronica@explains.social

          So many tech bros are coming at me right now arguing that yes, in fact, Windows users or Facebook users don't deserve privacy.

          Busting out the bold markdown for this: you're wrong.

          Everyone deserves privacy.

          aisling@critters.gayA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @veronica@explains.social i like how this essay argues that we are in fact shooting ourselves in the foot when we say privacy and other forms of digital autonomy are only for the tech literate https://blog.giovanh.com/blog/2025/10/14/a-hack-is-not-enough/

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          • veronica@explains.socialV veronica@explains.social

            "If you use Facebook, you know what they're doing."

            I don't care. You still deserve privacy. Full stop.

            oli@olifant.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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            @veronica omg yes.

            Just a moment...

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            • veronica@explains.socialV veronica@explains.social

              So many tech bros are coming at me right now arguing that yes, in fact, Windows users or Facebook users don't deserve privacy.

              Busting out the bold markdown for this: you're wrong.

              Everyone deserves privacy.

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              @veronica And the obvious counterpoint is Facebook, Microsoft, and Google don't deserve my data or my attention.

              In fact, due to their monopoly positions, megacorps have a greater responsibility to be good stewards of the data they collect. But nobody's holding them responsible so lol i guess.

              Also users may not even realize they're "using" MS/FB/Goog because of advertising crap and jerks wearing creeper-glasses. I'm not consenting to FB having my face, but if some asshole is wearing Zuck's perv-dongles I guess I don't get a say.

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              • veronica@explains.socialV veronica@explains.social

                So many tech bros are coming at me right now arguing that yes, in fact, Windows users or Facebook users don't deserve privacy.

                Busting out the bold markdown for this: you're wrong.

                Everyone deserves privacy.

                dfx4509b@friendica.worldD This user is from outside of this forum
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                @veronica Meta and MS make it very clear how they feel about their users, regardless of how their users really feel.

                Like, when techbros say that Windows and FB/IG users don't deserve privacy, MS and Meta themselves are saying that very loud and clear by their actions as of late.

                Hell, Meta is the one doing the bulk of the lobbying for all the recent KYC laws.

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                • veronica@explains.socialV veronica@explains.social

                  So many tech bros are coming at me right now arguing that yes, in fact, Windows users or Facebook users don't deserve privacy.

                  Busting out the bold markdown for this: you're wrong.

                  Everyone deserves privacy.

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                  @veronica @threatresearch

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                  • scanner@apricot.socialS scanner@apricot.social

                    @veronica I have a lot of family that use facebook. Our family is scatter all over the US and sometimes all over the world. Facebook offers them a stay in touch in a very rich way. It also funnels them garbage, and puts them at risk. These people may or may not know this and just yelling at them that they deserve what they get for being able to enjoy pictures that their grand children send them is wrong.

                    tl;dr - you are absolutely right. They deserve privacy. Facebook (windows, etc)

                    rndanger@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @scanner @veronica
                    I haven't kept up on this but i know years ago many Latin American countries let Facebook give their users zero rate data meaning Facebook is free Internet, and the only Internet many people can afford.

                    Those people deserve privacy too

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                    • veronica@explains.socialV veronica@explains.social

                      So many tech bros are coming at me right now arguing that yes, in fact, Windows users or Facebook users don't deserve privacy.

                      Busting out the bold markdown for this: you're wrong.

                      Everyone deserves privacy.

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                      @veronica

                      The Microsoft tech sent to school us on Win2.11 in '89 was very blunt about this: Windows should never be used to access untrusted sites. On the subject of impacts to home users, he was equally blunt: they account for only a small sliver of their revenue.

                      In all the years since, I haven't noticed any change.

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