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Son came home today telling me about a class assignment in which he feels pressured by his teacher to use #AI to do a large part of it.

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  • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

    Son came home today telling me about a class assignment in which he feels pressured by his teacher to use #AI to do a large part of it. And worried that his own work will look "ugly" if he doesn't. He's in grade 6.

    So now we're teaching our kids that AI not only can do their thinking for them, but that their own creativity sucks in comparison.

    Wrote a long email to the administration that I'm going to sleep on for now because I'm furious & heartbroken.

    #CanPoli #OntEd #Education #teaching

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    @syntaxseed The other 'fun' thing is my older kid (year 7 - first year of secondary school in the UK) is complaining that his teachers are increasingly using AI to both plan lessons, set, and EVALUATE home work.

    All whilst they are prohibited from using AI (and of course many still use it).

    Not sure whether that is better or worse than your experience…

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    • bryce@mastodon.brycedixon.devB bryce@mastodon.brycedixon.dev

      @syntaxseed that's actually disgusting and any teacher telling children their work isn't good enough next to AI should feel eternally ashamed.

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      @bryce To be fair, this is a worry my son has developed himself & not something the teacher is saying or implying. But it's very upsetting.

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      • michael@mstdn.thms.ukM michael@mstdn.thms.uk

        @syntaxseed The other 'fun' thing is my older kid (year 7 - first year of secondary school in the UK) is complaining that his teachers are increasingly using AI to both plan lessons, set, and EVALUATE home work.

        All whilst they are prohibited from using AI (and of course many still use it).

        Not sure whether that is better or worse than your experience…

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        @michael Oh I have no doubt that many teachers are all-in on using it themselves. Who can resist a simple shortcut?

        My son says his teacher uses AI for a lot of her own needs. But I'm in a position with this school where I have to be very careful about criticizing the teachers specifically. So I'm going to start with registering my concerns to the principal & opting my own kids out of it's use.

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        • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

          I have zero hope that the teachers or administration will listen to me or even read my entire letter (why bother, have #AI summarize it for you!) but I'm just at such a loss.

          Our kids are going to be guinea pigs in the most potentially devastating experiment humanity has ever conducted on itself. WHAT IF IT'S NOT F**KING GREAT?? What if we DO create a generation with absolutely broken critical thinking & problem solving skills???

          #LLM #AI #parenting #education

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          @syntaxseed Yup. As a professor in a graduate program, I expect to be long since retired before these folks reach my level…. While my university is doing a good job at embracing/teaching ‘responsible’ AI, I shudder to think what kids are being taught (or not taught) at the lower levels of education and what bodes for the future workforce and future adults.

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          • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

            @bryce To be fair, this is a worry my son has developed himself & not something the teacher is saying or implying. But it's very upsetting.

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            @syntaxseed I feel so bad for people (kids especially) thinking it's unacceptable to not look like you're good at things. And that really is the issue: AI doesn't make you good at things, it just might make you *look* like you are - it's a lying tool that encourages dependence.

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            • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

              Son came home today telling me about a class assignment in which he feels pressured by his teacher to use #AI to do a large part of it. And worried that his own work will look "ugly" if he doesn't. He's in grade 6.

              So now we're teaching our kids that AI not only can do their thinking for them, but that their own creativity sucks in comparison.

              Wrote a long email to the administration that I'm going to sleep on for now because I'm furious & heartbroken.

              #CanPoli #OntEd #Education #teaching

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              @syntaxseed That is terrible. At the very least hopefully you can help your son feel like he doesn't have to use AI. The whole adoption of AI by so many people just makes me depressed at this point.

              We are literally just going to turn into the people in Wall-E the direction society is heading.

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              • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                @LibraryAndTea Absolutely!! 💯 I can't believe that everyone in any kind of decision making capacity doesn't see that

                ChatGPT, make my slides for me
                becomes
                Write my paper for me
                becomes
                Do my research for me
                becomes
                ChatGPT who should I vote for?
                becomes
                Tell me you love me
                etc etc

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                @syntaxseed @LibraryAndTea This reminds me! I know a teacher who after been provided with a Claude subscription, decided to use it to mark students essays, so he can spend more time watching TV

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                • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                  The hope I used to have that *surely* the education sector won't embrace these tools designed for plagiarism & cheating.... was sorely naive.

                  #education #parenting #OnPoli #teaching #CdnPoli

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                  @syntaxseed The education sector loves technical snake oil that they think they can use as One Weird Trick to avoid hiring more teachers and reducing class sizes.

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                  • misusecase@twit.socialM misusecase@twit.social

                    @syntaxseed The education sector loves technical snake oil that they think they can use as One Weird Trick to avoid hiring more teachers and reducing class sizes.

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                    @MisuseCase This is spot on! 🎯

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                    • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                      I have zero hope that the teachers or administration will listen to me or even read my entire letter (why bother, have #AI summarize it for you!) but I'm just at such a loss.

                      Our kids are going to be guinea pigs in the most potentially devastating experiment humanity has ever conducted on itself. WHAT IF IT'S NOT F**KING GREAT?? What if we DO create a generation with absolutely broken critical thinking & problem solving skills???

                      #LLM #AI #parenting #education

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                      @syntaxseed Do you know what the objective of the lesson is? There may be legitimate reasons related to AI literacy or AI fluency, but without knowing the objective of the lesson, it's hard to judge. Hopefully the students aren't learning that it's just easier to use AI all the time. Cognitive struggle is important.
                      You could always ask to see the teacher's lesson plan...

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