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A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

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  • torithom@theforkiverse.comT torithom@theforkiverse.com

    @_elena and isn't the situation with Substack such that you can migrate your profile to a different platform rather than starting over? I still think platform migration fatigue is not given enough credit for being a legitimate excuse, but sticking to platforms that can migrate is a good idea.

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    @Torithom ABSOLUTELY!

    I had 2 Substack newsletters years ago and I simply exported my subscriber list and moved to Ghost. It took a few minutes. Easy peasy. That's why I say there are ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSES.

    Ghost even offers a free concierge service for moving subscribers (incl. paid) off of Substack: https://ghost.org/move-to-ghost/

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    • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

      @_elena Please be aware that we have an #EuropeanAlternative based in Germany: #Steady - https://steady.page
      I use them for years and am very satisfied, great for EU-conform invoices.
      Like Patreon and other services where you can also earn money, of course, they also take a fee (only) on paid subscriptions.

      The problem why so many people don't leave Substack: They get new readers from the platform. The smaller the platform, the fewer readers you get

      #newsletter #blogging #journalism

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      #27

      @NatureMC thank you for this! I remember seeing posts a while back about how new free subscribers on Substack looked like bots... something that helped the reputation of the company ("grow your network!")... I need to find the links to this

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      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

        @_elena Please be aware that we have an #EuropeanAlternative based in Germany: #Steady - https://steady.page
        I use them for years and am very satisfied, great for EU-conform invoices.
        Like Patreon and other services where you can also earn money, of course, they also take a fee (only) on paid subscriptions.

        The problem why so many people don't leave Substack: They get new readers from the platform. The smaller the platform, the fewer readers you get

        #newsletter #blogging #journalism

        niklaskorz@rheinneckar.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        @NatureMC @_elena Looks interesting, thanks for sharing! A bit unfortunate that they only offer payout through Paypal though.

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

          We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

          No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

          There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

          msmamet@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @_elena Ghost is the one I'd push hardest on that list. I moved my practice blog there about a year ago - setup is straightforward, you own your subscriber list outright, and the SEO tooling is solid enough that I stopped needing a separate layer on top. The one honest caveat: the theme customization requires comfort with code. For most writers though, the defaults are good enough to ship immediately.

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

            We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

            No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

            There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

            synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @_elena

            If I had a nickel for every time I see the word facist or nazi on mastodon or bluesky I could probably buy a new car. Can we stop throwing around the same two words??

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

              We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

              No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

              There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

              ronan@mastodon.ronandev.ovhR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #31

              @_elena I‘ve just replaced a Substack link with the same article posted on Medium

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                curmudgeon@sfba.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @_elena Yeah, I'm not happy about Nazi's, racists, etc. on Substack, but they also have Rick Wilson, HCR, Joyce Vance, and other fine progressives - some of the most important Antifa voices of this generation. I'll pass on the boycott. Let others see what Andrew Tate is all about. That's what we call free speech.

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                  We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                  No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                  There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                  idren@mstdn.caI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #33

                  @_elena hello Charlie Angus the resistance is my microphone on while I’m yelling this at you?

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                    We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                    No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                    There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

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                    #34

                    @_elena "with hundreds of paid subscribers" is enough to get lauded as a Bestseller? Or only if you're that guy?

                    I'm convinced 😞

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                      We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                      No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                      There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                      idren@mstdn.caI This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @_elena I don’t need Nazis. I’ve got a red pill Alberta separatist insurgent neighbour with only double digit followers chat gpting cat fart filled angryprompts into that website nonstop.

                      and she links to insanity like this:

                      Link Preview Image
                      The Sovereign Sphere (@thesovereignsphere)

                      Exploring Biblical truths, Agenda 2030, Health Freedom and How to Leave Canada (and Where) with Samantha Lotus on the latest episode of The Sovereign Sphere. Watch Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXk1F5p0VcA&feature=youtu.be

                      favicon

                      Substack (substack.com)

                      So I don’t need to use her or nazis for an example. I can just go upstream to the things she’s looking at.

                      This is horrific.

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                      • msmamet@mastodon.socialM msmamet@mastodon.social

                        @_elena Ghost is the one I'd push hardest on that list. I moved my practice blog there about a year ago - setup is straightforward, you own your subscriber list outright, and the SEO tooling is solid enough that I stopped needing a separate layer on top. The one honest caveat: the theme customization requires comfort with code. For most writers though, the defaults are good enough to ship immediately.

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                        @msmamet wholeheartedly agree. I bought a premium theme for my Ghost blog and luckily it didn't need much tweaking because it is indeed hard. Otherwise I love everything about it

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          @jwildeboer I only abbreviated their name... pretty apt if you ask me... I also call Bluesky "BS" 🙊

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                          @_elena @jwildeboer

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                            We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                            No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                            There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

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                            @_elena Thought that read Substack Bellend 🤣
                            get my new glasses next week, so unfortunately in this instance I won't make that mistake again, sadly

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                            • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

                              @_elena @jwildeboer

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                              @renardboy I'll take that 😆 @jwildeboer

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                                We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                                No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                                There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                                trixiemaina@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @_elena idk but for me substack have been my go to go app .. depends what u are into though.. check the link on my profile maybe

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                                • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                  @_elena Please be aware that we have an #EuropeanAlternative based in Germany: #Steady - https://steady.page
                                  I use them for years and am very satisfied, great for EU-conform invoices.
                                  Like Patreon and other services where you can also earn money, of course, they also take a fee (only) on paid subscriptions.

                                  The problem why so many people don't leave Substack: They get new readers from the platform. The smaller the platform, the fewer readers you get

                                  #newsletter #blogging #journalism

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                                  @NatureMC Steady is great to keep my writing out there as well as updates. I can't use Ghost because they require a debit/credit card to get started and my bank won't allow it to go through since they're based in Singapore, and Steady was a free alternative that is incredibly easy to use.

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                                    We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                                    No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                                    There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

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                                    @_elena Also, as a side note, I've seen a ton of homophobia and transphobia on Medium getting monetized as of late so that's another one to start avoiding.

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      @jwildeboer thank you Jan! Perfectly said.

                                      I think it sends a powerful message when people and institutions take a stand.

                                      For example, the city of Paris quit X in January 2025 calling it "toxic" and denouncing the spread of misinformation that is rampant on it: https://cdn.paris.fr/presse/2025/01/16/6384c82a720b7042570efb650a66b339.pdf

                                      I wish more cities, politicians, media organizations would follow suit. With X AND Substack

                                      @codebuzz

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                                      @codebuzz Aside from what @_elena and @jwildeboer said, I do think it is a good use of time and energy to introduce people to more open source, self hostable, and indie platforms...I know you get that. You're on indieweb.social, one of the best instances on Mastodon!

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                                      • curmudgeon@sfba.socialC curmudgeon@sfba.social

                                        @_elena Yeah, I'm not happy about Nazi's, racists, etc. on Substack, but they also have Rick Wilson, HCR, Joyce Vance, and other fine progressives - some of the most important Antifa voices of this generation. I'll pass on the boycott. Let others see what Andrew Tate is all about. That's what we call free speech.

                                        mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @Curmudgeon @_elena

                                        The problem with this argument is that revenue earned by Substack is disproportionately used to support fascist ideology. So these great accounts are actually funding fascism, as is anyone who subscribes to them. That's not free speech, it's a failure to muster the courage of their convictions.

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                                        • torithom@theforkiverse.comT torithom@theforkiverse.com

                                          @hamishcampbell the thing I am curious about though is companies starting off as nice and then changing into #dotcons when they get bigger as people flock there when boycotting another platform that isn't nice anymore. What's the best protection against this never ending situation which potentially disperses and weakens communities?

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                                          #45

                                          @Torithom

                                          @hamishcampbell self host

                                          #dotcons

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