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A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

    We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

    No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

    There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

    torithom@theforkiverse.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #18

    @_elena and isn't the situation with Substack such that you can migrate your profile to a different platform rather than starting over? I still think platform migration fatigue is not given enough credit for being a legitimate excuse, but sticking to platforms that can migrate is a good idea.

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    • hamishcampbell@mastodon.socialH hamishcampbell@mastodon.social

      @_elena @hwll

      To be more useful I would point at the need to boycott #dotcons in general, yes use one as an example, but the bigger evil matters more than the individual evil.

      torithom@theforkiverse.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #19

      @hamishcampbell the thing I am curious about though is companies starting off as nice and then changing into #dotcons when they get bigger as people flock there when boycotting another platform that isn't nice anymore. What's the best protection against this never ending situation which potentially disperses and weakens communities?

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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        @codebuzz It’s not just one misogynistic guy or just one fascist. It’s also the publicly expressed support by the leadership of Substack to be open to these people. @_elena has my full support for calling them out on this.

        jaypeach53@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #20

        @jwildeboer @codebuzz @_elena @codebuzz sounds like a fascist enabler.

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

          We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

          No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

          There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

          melomario@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #21

          @_elena I made the change recently and decided to self-host. Besides endorsing these blogs the reading experience was a mess and was getting worse everyday.

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

            We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

            No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

            There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

            veza85ue@eupolicy.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #22

            @_elena Ahem.

            Veza85UE (@Veza85UE@eupolicy.social)

            Peter Sloterdijk could never. (I'm serious though, bring this man to the fediverse, his PeerTube would be 🔥.)

            favicon

            EUpolicy.social - A Mastodon server for the EU bubble (eupolicy.social)

            (Non-zero chance that if someone contacts him and pitches PeerTube and Ghost as 🇪🇺 Sovereignty he'll give it a go, lol.)

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

              We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

              No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

              There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

              atlovato@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #23

              @_elena - Musk's X is headed in that direction.

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                cassandra_complex@beige.partyC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #24

                @_elena
                I still side-eye those who post to Substack. There's just a non-zero chance that they think my rights to exist without violence or discrimination isn't important the way their newsletters are.

                I don't follow Substack links, it feels like the digital equivalent to wandering down the alleyway with a hate group meeting every few doors and hoping to come out the other side without them noticing me.

                It's uncomfortable knowing a few posts down, someone is questioning whether I should be forcibly put in a conversion camp or some shit. Or outright calling for driving people like me out of their community.

                The responses made by Substack definitely haven't helped any in making me think I'm welcome as their audience unless I want to put myself in a position to see horrendous "takes" like "God needs to smite these [slurs]."

                TL;DR: I consider Substack to basically be a digital sundown town. No thanks, I'll go where I'm welcome.

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                  We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                  No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                  There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                  pattykimura@beige.partyP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #25

                  @_elena I believe "Tate" is correctly pronounced "Taint".

                  I avoid reading Substack for this reason. It would be nice if the writers who rightly decry the empowerment of fascism and its targeting of the vulnerable weren't using the same site that explicitly does just that.

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                  • torithom@theforkiverse.comT torithom@theforkiverse.com

                    @_elena and isn't the situation with Substack such that you can migrate your profile to a different platform rather than starting over? I still think platform migration fatigue is not given enough credit for being a legitimate excuse, but sticking to platforms that can migrate is a good idea.

                    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #26

                    @Torithom ABSOLUTELY!

                    I had 2 Substack newsletters years ago and I simply exported my subscriber list and moved to Ghost. It took a few minutes. Easy peasy. That's why I say there are ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSES.

                    Ghost even offers a free concierge service for moving subscribers (incl. paid) off of Substack: https://ghost.org/move-to-ghost/

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                    • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                      @_elena Please be aware that we have an #EuropeanAlternative based in Germany: #Steady - https://steady.page
                      I use them for years and am very satisfied, great for EU-conform invoices.
                      Like Patreon and other services where you can also earn money, of course, they also take a fee (only) on paid subscriptions.

                      The problem why so many people don't leave Substack: They get new readers from the platform. The smaller the platform, the fewer readers you get

                      #newsletter #blogging #journalism

                      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #27

                      @NatureMC thank you for this! I remember seeing posts a while back about how new free subscribers on Substack looked like bots... something that helped the reputation of the company ("grow your network!")... I need to find the links to this

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                      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                        @_elena Please be aware that we have an #EuropeanAlternative based in Germany: #Steady - https://steady.page
                        I use them for years and am very satisfied, great for EU-conform invoices.
                        Like Patreon and other services where you can also earn money, of course, they also take a fee (only) on paid subscriptions.

                        The problem why so many people don't leave Substack: They get new readers from the platform. The smaller the platform, the fewer readers you get

                        #newsletter #blogging #journalism

                        niklaskorz@rheinneckar.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #28

                        @NatureMC @_elena Looks interesting, thanks for sharing! A bit unfortunate that they only offer payout through Paypal though.

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                          We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                          No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                          There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                          msmamet@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #29

                          @_elena Ghost is the one I'd push hardest on that list. I moved my practice blog there about a year ago - setup is straightforward, you own your subscriber list outright, and the SEO tooling is solid enough that I stopped needing a separate layer on top. The one honest caveat: the theme customization requires comfort with code. For most writers though, the defaults are good enough to ship immediately.

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                            We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                            No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                            There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                            synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @_elena

                            If I had a nickel for every time I see the word facist or nazi on mastodon or bluesky I could probably buy a new car. Can we stop throwing around the same two words??

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                              We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                              No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                              There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                              ronan@mastodon.ronandev.ovhR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #31

                              @_elena I‘ve just replaced a Substack link with the same article posted on Medium

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                                We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                                No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                                There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                                curmudgeon@sfba.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #32

                                @_elena Yeah, I'm not happy about Nazi's, racists, etc. on Substack, but they also have Rick Wilson, HCR, Joyce Vance, and other fine progressives - some of the most important Antifa voices of this generation. I'll pass on the boycott. Let others see what Andrew Tate is all about. That's what we call free speech.

                                mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM benroyce@mastodon.socialB 2 Replies Last reply
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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                                  We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                                  No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                                  There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                                  idren@mstdn.caI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @_elena hello Charlie Angus the resistance is my microphone on while I’m yelling this at you?

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                                    We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                                    No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                                    There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                                    uastronomer@mastodon.monoceros.co.zaU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #34

                                    @_elena "with hundreds of paid subscribers" is enough to get lauded as a Bestseller? Or only if you're that guy?

                                    I'm convinced 😞

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      A routine reminder that it's always a good idea to boycott #Substack.

                                      We have long known that it platforms and profits from Nazi publications. And now: #manosphere influencers with multiple accusations of serious crimes... so much so that there is a dedicated Wikipedia page about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_the_Tate_brothers

                                      No problem for #Substack though! They happily take a 10% cut from all paid subscriptions.

                                      There are many great alternatives to SS: Ghost, Buttondown, beehiiv, Patreon... no more excuses

                                      idren@mstdn.caI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @_elena I don’t need Nazis. I’ve got a red pill Alberta separatist insurgent neighbour with only double digit followers chat gpting cat fart filled angryprompts into that website nonstop.

                                      and she links to insanity like this:

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                                      The Sovereign Sphere (@thesovereignsphere)

                                      Exploring Biblical truths, Agenda 2030, Health Freedom and How to Leave Canada (and Where) with Samantha Lotus on the latest episode of The Sovereign Sphere. Watch Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXk1F5p0VcA&feature=youtu.be

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                                      Substack (substack.com)

                                      So I don’t need to use her or nazis for an example. I can just go upstream to the things she’s looking at.

                                      This is horrific.

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                                      • msmamet@mastodon.socialM msmamet@mastodon.social

                                        @_elena Ghost is the one I'd push hardest on that list. I moved my practice blog there about a year ago - setup is straightforward, you own your subscriber list outright, and the SEO tooling is solid enough that I stopped needing a separate layer on top. The one honest caveat: the theme customization requires comfort with code. For most writers though, the defaults are good enough to ship immediately.

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                                        #36

                                        @msmamet wholeheartedly agree. I bought a premium theme for my Ghost blog and luckily it didn't need much tweaking because it is indeed hard. Otherwise I love everything about it

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          @jwildeboer I only abbreviated their name... pretty apt if you ask me... I also call Bluesky "BS" 🙊

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                                          #37

                                          @_elena @jwildeboer

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