Decided to try getting #Obsidian working for all my various #ttrpg crap and #worldbuilding crap.
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@dzwiedziu I'm not looking for advice at this time. I've tried Obsidian in the past multiple times and abandoned it each time, and now I am sitting down starting from scratch and using a guide. Even so, it's just clunky to use.
@glen_malley @dzwiedziu I mean, at the end it is just an markdown editor ... honestly that is all i use it for … and the only reason I like it is because it just creates folders and files so I can move to a different thing if they start enshitten it
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@glen_malley @dzwiedziu I mean, at the end it is just an markdown editor ... honestly that is all i use it for … and the only reason I like it is because it just creates folders and files so I can move to a different thing if they start enshitten it
@gullevek @dzwiedziu
Long ago I started storing my information in a wiki using WikidPad but while it is very flexible and strong, it's also a little TOO much. And of course only useable on desktop.
I need the ability to use complex tagging and searching and grouping and such. It has always seemed like Obsidian was capable of everything I need, but only if you know how to set things up.
And perhaps most frustratingly is that 99% of guides are frickin' videos. -
@gullevek @dzwiedziu
Long ago I started storing my information in a wiki using WikidPad but while it is very flexible and strong, it's also a little TOO much. And of course only useable on desktop.
I need the ability to use complex tagging and searching and grouping and such. It has always seemed like Obsidian was capable of everything I need, but only if you know how to set things up.
And perhaps most frustratingly is that 99% of guides are frickin' videos.@glen_malley @dzwiedziu Yeah. I just have stuff in there which I hope to find with searches. I barely tag anything or cross reference. Perhaps I should feed it into a local LLM for searching? And yeah. Videos for guides. Fuck this. Fuck videos for pretty much anything. How to use this software. Let’s make a video. Fuck this shit
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@glen_malley @dzwiedziu Yeah. I just have stuff in there which I hope to find with searches. I barely tag anything or cross reference. Perhaps I should feed it into a local LLM for searching? And yeah. Videos for guides. Fuck this. Fuck videos for pretty much anything. How to use this software. Let’s make a video. Fuck this shit
@gullevek @dzwiedziu
When it comes to rpg stuff and even worldbuilding, I am all about organization. I want to be able to tag a character with say an organization name X, and then somewhere else be able to go "list up everyone in organization X". And it should just work. -
@gullevek @dzwiedziu
When it comes to rpg stuff and even worldbuilding, I am all about organization. I want to be able to tag a character with say an organization name X, and then somewhere else be able to go "list up everyone in organization X". And it should just work.@glen_malley @dzwiedziu Woah. Yeah. Dunno if obsidian is ok for that. They recently added some strange search matrix bla thing. But that looked just too complicated for me
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@gullevek @dzwiedziu
When it comes to rpg stuff and even worldbuilding, I am all about organization. I want to be able to tag a character with say an organization name X, and then somewhere else be able to go "list up everyone in organization X". And it should just work.@gullevek @dzwiedziu
In WikidPad, I used tags for this and it was fine, but the default hierarchical structure meant that you could wind up with weird nesting behaviour.
X is a Y so the Y page appears under X but also Y is related to Z so Z is under Y and yet Z has a connection to X so X is also under Z.
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@gullevek @dzwiedziu
Long ago I started storing my information in a wiki using WikidPad but while it is very flexible and strong, it's also a little TOO much. And of course only useable on desktop.
I need the ability to use complex tagging and searching and grouping and such. It has always seemed like Obsidian was capable of everything I need, but only if you know how to set things up.
And perhaps most frustratingly is that 99% of guides are frickin' videos.@glen_malley
> And perhaps most frustratingly is that 99% of guides are frickin' videos.This so much.
If you'd like to accept one suggestion only, it's to make yourself a test vault and just go wild with experiments.
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@glen_malley @dzwiedziu Woah. Yeah. Dunno if obsidian is ok for that. They recently added some strange search matrix bla thing. But that looked just too complicated for me
@gullevek @dzwiedziu
Obsidian seems to be the de facto tool used by roleplaying gamers, and I see tons of people saying they use tagging and such to group info together, so it probably can do those things....if you know HOW.
Which is where I am right now. -
@gullevek @dzwiedziu
Obsidian seems to be the de facto tool used by roleplaying gamers, and I see tons of people saying they use tagging and such to group info together, so it probably can do those things....if you know HOW.
Which is where I am right now.@glen_malley @dzwiedziu Perhaps there is a guide. As a video
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@glen_malley
> And perhaps most frustratingly is that 99% of guides are frickin' videos.This so much.
If you'd like to accept one suggestion only, it's to make yourself a test vault and just go wild with experiments.
@dzwiedziu @gullevek
Yeah I have forced myself to sit down and watch this "obisidian for RPGs" video and just doing what he's doing.
That's actually where I got my first complaint about clunkiness from because by default if you make a new vault it's just open...along with the previous one. But on windows if you try to CLOSE it by doing the natural thing of clicking the X button....the entire Obsidian closes.
It took me forever to figure out how to close just one vault. -
@glen_malley @dzwiedziu Woah. Yeah. Dunno if obsidian is ok for that. They recently added some strange search matrix bla thing. But that looked just too complicated for me
@gullevek
It could be possible with dataview or bases.
But those can be a steep curve as one'd need to write an SQL-like query.
@glen_malley -
@dzwiedziu @gullevek
Yeah I have forced myself to sit down and watch this "obisidian for RPGs" video and just doing what he's doing.
That's actually where I got my first complaint about clunkiness from because by default if you make a new vault it's just open...along with the previous one. But on windows if you try to CLOSE it by doing the natural thing of clicking the X button....the entire Obsidian closes.
It took me forever to figure out how to close just one vault.@glen_malley @dzwiedziu Hu. Advantage Mac. Because if you close the window you just close the vault
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@gullevek
It could be possible with dataview or bases.
But those can be a steep curve as one'd need to write an SQL-like query.
@glen_malley@dzwiedziu @gullevek
I'm definitely not afraid of having to use queries. That's my dayjob. -
@glen_malley @dzwiedziu Hu. Advantage Mac. Because if you close the window you just close the vault
@gullevek @dzwiedziu
Yeah on windows it's not the X on the window itself...that closes the entire app.
It's the X on the taskbar representation of the window. Which is such a wild choice. -
@dzwiedziu @gullevek
I'm definitely not afraid of having to use queries. That's my dayjob.@glen_malley @dzwiedziu Select work from life where location = “home”
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@gullevek @dzwiedziu
Yeah on windows it's not the X on the window itself...that closes the entire app.
It's the X on the taskbar representation of the window. Which is such a wild choice.@glen_malley @dzwiedziu Yeah. Bad choice
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@glen_malley @dzwiedziu Select work from life where location = “home”
@gullevek @dzwiedziu
Anyway, I will keep my bitching to a minimum. This video, while old and...a video...is not unbearable so far. -
@gullevek @dzwiedziu
Anyway, I will keep my bitching to a minimum. This video, while old and...a video...is not unbearable so far.@glen_malley
Hey, if you need to we can listen (with the caveat that I immediately go into problem-solving mode). -
@glen_malley
Hey, if you need to we can listen (with the caveat that I immediately go into problem-solving mode).@dzwiedziu @gullevek
I'm just gonna follow this guide and see where I end up.
Whatever happens, it has to beat my current system of storing data in....Excel. -
@dzwiedziu @gullevek
I'm just gonna follow this guide and see where I end up.
Whatever happens, it has to beat my current system of storing data in....Excel.@glen_malley @dzwiedziu So Japanese
