Disturbing (to me): the new sign on a trail into a wilderness area excludes motorized vehicles, "other users welcome".
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Disturbing (to me): the new sign on a trail into a wilderness area excludes motorized vehicles, "other users welcome". The older, more traditional Carsonite sign a few feet away has a "no mountain biking" sticker.
I hike and mountain bike, but I really don't want to see mountain bikes in a designated wilderness area. I wonder if the mixed messages here are indicative of a policy change at the USFS? If so, I don't like it.
@wanderinghermit ha! No mention of tanks!
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Disturbing (to me): the new sign on a trail into a wilderness area excludes motorized vehicles, "other users welcome". The older, more traditional Carsonite sign a few feet away has a "no mountain biking" sticker.
I hike and mountain bike, but I really don't want to see mountain bikes in a designated wilderness area. I wonder if the mixed messages here are indicative of a policy change at the USFS? If so, I don't like it.
@wanderinghermit Any trail "activist" could have added that no bikes sticker to the bottom of the post. Do you have other examples of official forest service stickers to compare it against?
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@wanderinghermit Any trail "activist" could have added that no bikes sticker to the bottom of the post. Do you have other examples of official forest service stickers to compare it against?
It looks to me like the real thing, I've seen them at many other wilderness areas.
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Disturbing (to me): the new sign on a trail into a wilderness area excludes motorized vehicles, "other users welcome". The older, more traditional Carsonite sign a few feet away has a "no mountain biking" sticker.
I hike and mountain bike, but I really don't want to see mountain bikes in a designated wilderness area. I wonder if the mixed messages here are indicative of a policy change at the USFS? If so, I don't like it.
@wanderinghermit the bike bros kind of ruin it for other cyclists. Aggressively pounding down trails as fast as you can go is a world of difference from recreational touring.
The only real difference between them and dirt bikes is the lesser power and noise pollution of their engines.
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@wanderinghermit the bike bros kind of ruin it for other cyclists. Aggressively pounding down trails as fast as you can go is a world of difference from recreational touring.
The only real difference between them and dirt bikes is the lesser power and noise pollution of their engines.
@MatthewChat @wanderinghermit and even the "lesser power" part of that is changing fast with unregulated e-bikes.
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@MatthewChat @wanderinghermit and even the "lesser power" part of that is changing fast with unregulated e-bikes.
Absolutely do not want to be hiking along in a wilderness area and have a group of high powered e bikes come down the trail. I hike wilderness areas to get away from that shit.
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Absolutely do not want to be hiking along in a wilderness area and have a group of high powered e bikes come down the trail. I hike wilderness areas to get away from that shit.
@wanderinghermit @kajord @MatthewChat My understanding is that motorized vehicles are not allowed in a wilderness area.
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@wanderinghermit @kajord @MatthewChat My understanding is that motorized vehicles are not allowed in a wilderness area.
Yeah, and in nearly all wilderness areas that prohibition includes bicycles and, oddly enough, hang gliders.
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Yeah, and in nearly all wilderness areas that prohibition includes bicycles and, oddly enough, hang gliders.
@wanderinghermit @mlanger @kajord @MatthewChat To be a contrarian: I've never understood the logic of banning mountain bikes while allowing thousand-pound, unpredictable, sometimes poorly trained animals. Though I suspect it has a lot to do with the financial profile of equestrians.
Yes, there are poorly behaved mountain bikers, but there are also poorly behaved hikers and equestrians.
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@wanderinghermit @mlanger @kajord @MatthewChat To be a contrarian: I've never understood the logic of banning mountain bikes while allowing thousand-pound, unpredictable, sometimes poorly trained animals. Though I suspect it has a lot to do with the financial profile of equestrians.
Yes, there are poorly behaved mountain bikers, but there are also poorly behaved hikers and equestrians.
@akkana @mlanger @kajord @MatthewChat
I agree with you, there doesn't seem to be much logic. My personal preference is largely based on speed. Hikers and horses generally travel at about the same pace; I know horses can run fast but I've never seen one running on a forest trail.
Mountain bikers, however, tend to go fast down hills. And having to jump out of the way ruins my wilderness experience. Selfish of me.
