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I really liked Mark Carney's speech.

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  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

    I know it's easier to post on American social media services. But Canadians have been doing a lot of things that are harder just to support Canadian businesses and keep our dollars on this side of the border. Government can do things that are a little harder, too.

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    @evan
    I think Canadians have an opportunity here to further push more use of the Fediverse to Canadian Officials: it's still a large, international network, but Canadians can control the servers thet Canadians connect on, meaning it's not vulnerable to potential whims of some other country's spiraling government.

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    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

      But we need government to do its part. This video was shared on American social media network YouTube. Why? We have video networks at home. We have the CBC. We have government Web sites. This is a post by our government, for our citizens. It should be hosted here.

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      @evan @Beltliner403
      💯🍁

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      • novanaturalist@cosocial.caN novanaturalist@cosocial.ca

        @wendinoakland
        It may well make sense to you in California that it was a direct message, but the world does not actually revolve around the US or California. Sometimes we aren't speaking to you.

        The world knows that Carly Simon's biggest hit could have been written about pretty much any American.

        The need for Canada to have its own platforms to communicate is *entirely* to avoid this American-centred perspective. @evan

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        @NovaNaturalist Sigh… you have, truly, missed the point of my broadly winking hyperbole. Paging @maxleibman regarding General Gross Misinterpretation, an ongoing thread.

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        • novanaturalist@cosocial.caN novanaturalist@cosocial.ca

          @wendinoakland
          It may well make sense to you in California that it was a direct message, but the world does not actually revolve around the US or California. Sometimes we aren't speaking to you.

          The world knows that Carly Simon's biggest hit could have been written about pretty much any American.

          The need for Canada to have its own platforms to communicate is *entirely* to avoid this American-centred perspective. @evan

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          @NovaNaturalist Really, you’re a clueless, overly serious twat. Learn to parse the obvious & get a grip!

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          • wendinoakland@beige.partyW wendinoakland@beige.party

            @evan Maybe it was an opportunity to inform us, here, below the 49th, without shouting. He was quite firm in his sentiments, but using American social media was a very polite act. At least it makes sense to me here in California. ♥️🇨🇦

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            @wendinoakland Federation lets us host and own our own networks and stay connected to the world. You can see videos from our Canadian servers using the Web. On federated social networks, you can follow Canadians with accounts on servers hosted in Canada and owned and operated by Canadian entities. We don't have to use American services to connect with Americans.

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            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

              @wendinoakland Federation lets us host and own our own networks and stay connected to the world. You can see videos from our Canadian servers using the Web. On federated social networks, you can follow Canadians with accounts on servers hosted in Canada and owned and operated by Canadian entities. We don't have to use American services to connect with Americans.

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              @evan I’m aware and happily follow Canadian users on their local servers. I’d made a snide retort regarding PM Carney’s choice to use an American social medium with an enormous reach, suggesting that he could politely reach all of us yanks easily. The other commenter seemed to take me too seriously by far, missing the fun entirely.

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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                The American president doesn't use the big American social networks for his announcements. Why is the Canadian prime minister using them? #ElbowsUp

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                @evan
                Carney should also have a truth dot social account.

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                  @evan
                  Carney should also have a truth dot social account.

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                  @sb truth.ca you mean

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    But we need government to do its part. This video was shared on American social media network YouTube. Why? We have video networks at home. We have the CBC. We have government Web sites. This is a post by our government, for our citizens. It should be hosted here.

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                    @evan exclusively offered on YT. I've yet to see a full copy elsewhere. CBC and other Canadian media probably can't copy it from YT due to copyright. Carney is a fool or a liar on this.

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                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                      @sb truth.ca you mean

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                      @evan
                      LoL

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                      • johnefrancis@cosocial.caJ johnefrancis@cosocial.ca

                        @evan exclusively offered on YT. I've yet to see a full copy elsewhere. CBC and other Canadian media probably can't copy it from YT due to copyright. Carney is a fool or a liar on this.

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                        @johnefrancis @evan Did Carney say something about why it is on Youtube? I'm asking based on the fool/liar comment.

                        I'm admit that I was multitasking when I listened to his statement, so if he said something in the video, I missed it. Also, did a quick kagi search and couldn't easily find anything relevant.

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                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                          But we need government to do its part. This video was shared on American social media network YouTube. Why? We have video networks at home. We have the CBC. We have government Web sites. This is a post by our government, for our citizens. It should be hosted here.

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                          @evan

                          It was shared there because that's a way to reach more people.

                          Regarding the speech itself, it's just more pablum. Carney has allowed Trump to dictate our tax policy (cutting the DST as soon as Trump demanded), and has allowed Trump to dictate our defence spending (the Liberal's policy platform was for 2% of GDP, but due to Trump's demands, Carney increased the goal to the ludicrous level of 5% -- contrast that with Spain, one of the few nations that truly has taken stands against Trump).

                          Everything he says is predicated on Trump's whims. He supported the war in Iran (later "with regret", but always maintained that support); his criticism of Israel's attack on Lebanon is in line with Trump's viewpoint (in that Trump himself criticized it); he supported the action on Venezuela; his minister of foreign affairs, Anand, only sent aid to Cuba after okaying it the Marco Rubio; he's allowing Canadian made weapons to be used by Israel in their genocide of Gaza (via the refusal to enact Bill C-233 -- Rob Oliphant, secretary to Minister Anand, stated the bill would "severely hinder our defence industry"), etc.

                          Right wing austerity neoliberal governments are always signing deals with various nations for so-called free trade. So that's not new. And usually such leaders, like Harper and now Carney, fawn over Brock's role in 1812 (1).

                          It's all to convert us into a militaristic petrol state that appeases the US.

                          #cdnpoli #markcarney #canpoli

                          1.) https://policyoptions.irpp.org/2013/02/harpers-history/

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                          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                            The American president doesn't use the big American social networks for his announcements. Why is the Canadian prime minister using them? #ElbowsUp

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                            (Donald Trump has not always posted on Truth Social, and his campaign has used other social network platforms. Truth Social is kinda big. Other US presidents and politicians have used big American social network platforms.)

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