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  • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

    Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

    Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

    I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

    I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

    Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

    πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

    realcainmosni@mastodon.me.ukR This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #21

    @NudelnAlDente I would have been more direct, still: "Thanks, but I'll go somewhere else."

    Thing is, it probably *doesn't* hurt their trade to any appreciable degree. The younger generations as a whole seem to have been normalised to everything needing an online account and 24/7 access to their life. If that's the target demographic, or the demographic that most sustains their business, the bar is not going to care one iota about outliers. THAT is the root of the problem.

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    • vulgalour@birdbutt.comV vulgalour@birdbutt.com

      @NudelnAlDente That's a wild business model. I wonder what the logic is behind that decision. You're supposed to remove any sort of friction between the customer and their money and this is very much the opposite of that.

      I'm assuming they didn't even have a chalkboard of special cocktails at the bar to tempt customers with.

      nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #22

      @vulgalour They did not. Presumably because no-one can Like & Subscribe a chalkboard. (or Boost & Follow, I don't know Instagram πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ)

      (Oh & before anyone replies. I don't care to learn)

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      • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

        Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

        Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

        I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

        I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

        Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

        πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

        missgayle@urbanists.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #23

        @NudelnAlDente

        We walk out of places that don't have real menus.

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        • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

          Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

          Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

          I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

          I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

          Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

          πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

          catdragon@mastodon.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
          catdragon@mastodon.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
          catdragon@mastodon.world
          wrote last edited by
          #24

          @NudelnAlDente yeah let me add in restaurants and businesses that use Facebook as their web site.
          No, I am not going to go eat at your restaurant without seeing your menu first and also no fucking way in this world unless you were holding a gun to my dog’s head will I be going on Facebook for anything.

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          • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

            Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

            Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

            I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

            I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

            Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

            πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

            progo@boop.cityP This user is from outside of this forum
            progo@boop.cityP This user is from outside of this forum
            progo@boop.city
            wrote last edited by
            #25

            @NudelnAlDente this is the equivalent of a cocktail bar for everyone, speaking only Spanish in an English speaking neighborhood. Nope. Not for me. Bye.

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            • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

              Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

              Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

              I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

              I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

              Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

              πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

              lenotaire@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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              lenotaire@mastodon.social
              wrote last edited by
              #26

              @NudelnAlDente I once went to a buffet restaurant where the dishes you wanted needed to be sent to a Whatsapp account. Did I not have (and still not) such an account, back then I did not even had a Whatsapp-capable phone. No other option than to leave unserved...

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              • catdragon@mastodon.worldC catdragon@mastodon.world

                @NudelnAlDente yeah let me add in restaurants and businesses that use Facebook as their web site.
                No, I am not going to go eat at your restaurant without seeing your menu first and also no fucking way in this world unless you were holding a gun to my dog’s head will I be going on Facebook for anything.

                nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                nudelnaldente@mstdn.social
                wrote last edited by
                #27

                @CatDragon Yes!!!

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                • progo@boop.cityP progo@boop.city

                  @NudelnAlDente this is the equivalent of a cocktail bar for everyone, speaking only Spanish in an English speaking neighborhood. Nope. Not for me. Bye.

                  nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  nudelnaldente@mstdn.social
                  wrote last edited by
                  #28

                  @progo Given what we Anglophones have done to regions in Spain like the Costa del Sol, I'd be fine with speaking only Spanish in an English speaking neighbourhood. πŸ˜‚

                  But yeah, I get your point.

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                  • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

                    Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

                    Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

                    I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

                    I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

                    Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

                    πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

                    lancejz@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #29

                    @NudelnAlDente OMG That is so stupid.

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                    • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

                      Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

                      Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

                      I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

                      I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

                      Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

                      πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

                      hatter@metasocial.comH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      hatter@metasocial.com
                      wrote last edited by
                      #30

                      @NudelnAlDente They were lucky to get the price of a small beer out of you. While I'd have asked the bartender for recommendations, or ordered something relatively well known, I'd also have shared some thought with them to pass on to their manager.

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                      • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

                        Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

                        Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

                        I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

                        I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

                        Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

                        πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

                        earwigplanet@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        earwigplanet@mastodon.social
                        wrote last edited by
                        #31

                        @NudelnAlDente I don't get hired if I don't have an Instagram, so I keep it around with all my handful of followers who can't see my posts anymore just because venues have this idea that you HAVE to be there.

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                        • raganwald@social.bau-ha.usR raganwald@social.bau-ha.us

                          @NudelnAlDente There was a nice small Korean fried chicken joint in my town. It had menus. It was close to the library, and I regularly lunched there. Last time I was there, the menus were gone, replaced by a QR code at the table. You get the menu *and* place your order with your device.

                          The joint is still there, but I'm not. No specific reason or rant, I guess it just felt like a harbinger of future enshittification. I should drive by and see if it has been replaced by a vending machine.

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                          #32

                          @raganwald @NudelnAlDente A local family run Mexican place with great food provides the option of paying with a QR code. I tried it and somewhere in the process a hidden app (forgot the name at the moment) was silently downloaded and installed on my iPhone without my knowledge or consent. Nope. I still eat there but only pay with credit card or cash.

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                          • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

                            Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

                            Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

                            I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

                            I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

                            Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

                            πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

                            aburka@hachyderm.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #33

                            @NudelnAlDente dumbest trend ever, why would you want everyone in your bar to be looking down at their phones

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                            • rootschange@federate.socialR rootschange@federate.social

                              @NudelnAlDente ditto to non-profits and community organizations.

                              Instagram is not accessible and you’re leaving a huge portion of your community out. Those off Instagram might actually be better evangelists for you! But they can’t find you.

                              cppguy@infosec.spaceC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #34

                              @rootschange @NudelnAlDente

                              My phone is configured to block all Meta hosts, so Instagram is a 404 for me. If I can't buy from you or work with you without disabling Blokada, I'm walking away.

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                              • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

                                Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

                                Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

                                I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

                                I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

                                Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

                                πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

                                courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote last edited by
                                #35

                                @NudelnAlDente That would be enough to make me turn around and walk out -- after telling them exactly why I'm doing so.

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                                • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

                                  Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

                                  Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

                                  I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

                                  I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

                                  Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

                                  πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

                                  vgoller@nrw.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #36

                                  @NudelnAlDente don’t worry. They either go bust or are a good place NOT to be, a honeypot for influencer and wannabe insta-fames. You don’t want to hang out with these anyway

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                                  • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

                                    Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

                                    Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

                                    I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

                                    I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

                                    Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

                                    πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

                                    jranft@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #37

                                    @NudelnAlDente Yes. So stupid. They should just show you a screenshot of the menu on their phone at least.

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                                    • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

                                      Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

                                      Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

                                      I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

                                      I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

                                      Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

                                      πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

                                      vrtxd@piipitin.fiV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      vrtxd@piipitin.fi
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #38

                                      @NudelnAlDente
                                      – Oh okay, but the account is free and very easy to create!
                                      – Cool, in that case please create a throwaway account so I can throw money at you.

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                                      • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

                                        Went to a cocktail bar last night fully intending to order a cocktail.

                                        Bartender: "We don't have a physical menu. You have to check us out on #Instagram to get the cocktail list."

                                        I find them on Instagram only to discover that it's impossible to see their menu there when not logged in.

                                        I. Don't. Have. An. Instagram. Account.

                                        Me: "Yeah, I'll have a small beer, thanks." (at less than quarter of the price of a cocktail)

                                        πŸ™„ FFS businesses, stop getting captured by #Meta. It hurts your business.

                                        heckinchonker@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        heckinchonker@mastodon.social
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #39

                                        @NudelnAlDente There was an ice cream place that sold ice cream shakes near me. The menu was animated, and would only show the shake ingredients for a couple seconds before cycling. The server explained that I could just ask and she could tell me what was in each, and I really tried but my brain just could not process what the options were.

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                                        • nudelnaldente@mstdn.socialN nudelnaldente@mstdn.social

                                          @kimlockhartga I think it may be more a case of being self-consciously cool tbh. One of the bar staff also corrected one of our party on her pronunciation of a drink's name. πŸ™„

                                          Honestly I would have just left & gone to a decent beer bar if not for the rest of the group I was with. I don't think I'll be going back.

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #40

                                          @NudelnAlDente holy hell! I would have been fired for correcting a guest's pronunciation! We actually saw a guy get fired for just that. Great way to ruin your biz and your tip.

                                          It was so ingrained in me that when someone asked for a Cabernet Sauvignon Blanc, I asked if they wanted the red or the white one, because there was no way I was correcting anyone, even if they ordered the karaoke (keoke) coffee, trout ala mode (almondine), or Ryesling (Riesling).

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