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  • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

    Today I was nerdsniped:

    If you could start and end anywhere… what js the furthest distance you can travel by train on one #Interrail day on regularly scheduled trains, without doubling back on yourself?

    If we allow transfers between stations on local transport and reservations or other supplements, I came up with London St. Pancras to Palermo Centrale, which seems to be 2821km according to @viaduct_world’s routing.

    https://int.bahn.de/en/buchung/start?vbid=83b87ef1%2Daba2%2D4d8d%2Db02f%2D1eab5f99b9f5

    But I am now wondering if we could do something involving two night trains, joining the first one at midnight…

    What itinerary can you come up with?

    (And no, the optima express 35 hour train doesn’t count as they don’t accept Interrail)

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    @moof Not interrail only as it involves buses too, but you might like the Travelling Turtle channel if you don't follow it already. Some of the challenges include "How far east of the prime meridian can I get in 24h" "Can I get to another continent from London in 24h" etc.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB1TR7wm1ww

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    • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

      @moof @viaduct_world Luckily there are frequent trains between München Hbf and München Ost and another train to Bologna in the same hour (odd). And that one goes a longer route even. Or wait, I seem to have managed to enter a non-existent train into viaduct.world. The real RJ 89 departs at 15:43. Anyway, new total is 3124 km.

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      @moof @viaduct_world Flensburg–Hamburg–München–Salzburg–Wien–Kyiv is also quite long, but shorter.

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      • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

        @moof @viaduct_world Flensburg–Hamburg–München–Salzburg–Wien–Kyiv is also quite long, but shorter.

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        @tml @viaduct_world More than 3087km?

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        • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

          How about this: Brno hl.n. to Palermo Centrale.

          It starts at 00:30 and travels 3087km.

          https://int.bahn.de/en/buchung/start?vbid=e3db1dbe%2D07f8%2D4b64%2Dbe76%2Da98a9e5d6d7e

          There is some slack there, too. You could probably route Berlin-Munich through a more roundabout route to add kilometres

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          @moof So because you got on to the train at Bologna before midnight, you're allowed to stay on for the remaining 17h? Is that all 1 interrail day?

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          • timo_micro@scicomm.xyzT timo_micro@scicomm.xyz

            @moof So because you got on to the train at Bologna before midnight, you're allowed to stay on for the remaining 17h? Is that all 1 interrail day?

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            @Timo_Micro Yes. Night trains only count for one interrail day

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            • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

              @tml @viaduct_world More than 3087km?

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              @moof @viaduct_world I already deleted it from my test journey on Viaduct, but it was below 3000 km. Plus Interrail is not valid in Ukraine, of course.

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              • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

                @tml @viaduct_world Though reading through it… that connection at Munich is a bit sus. That’s not gonna work

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                @moof@cupoftea.social @tml@mementomori.social there are trains every few minutes between München Hbf and Ost

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                • sam@shonk.sam.axS sam@shonk.sam.ax

                  @moof@cupoftea.social @tml@mementomori.social there are trains every few minutes between München Hbf and Ost

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                  @sam @tml Yes, but there is no way in hell you are going to make a 10 minute connection when the s-bahn is 9 minutes long…

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                  • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

                    @sam @tml Yes, but there is no way in hell you are going to make a 10 minute connection when the s-bahn is 9 minutes long…

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                    @moof@cupoftea.social @tml@mementomori.social oh hell no, from Hbf into the basement takes 5 mins, more if you're inexperienced

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                    • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

                      @sam @tml Yes, but there is no way in hell you are going to make a 10 minute connection when the s-bahn is 9 minutes long…

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                      @moof @sam I managed to mess up the times for that leg in that post; the follow-up is correct I think. But double-checking appreciated.

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                      • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                        @moof @viaduct_world Luckily there are frequent trains between München Hbf and München Ost and another train to Bologna in the same hour (odd). And that one goes a longer route even. Or wait, I seem to have managed to enter a non-existent train into viaduct.world. The real RJ 89 departs at 15:43. Anyway, new total is 3124 km.

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                        @tml @viaduct_world And that is the current winner….

                        So, when are we doing it? 😉

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                        • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

                          @tml @viaduct_world And that is the current winner….

                          So, when are we doing it? 😉

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                          @moof @viaduct_world It is tempting, but I think I am interested just from a theoretical point of view;)

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                          • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

                            @tml @viaduct_world And that is the current winner….

                            So, when are we doing it? 😉

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                            @moof @tml Now, for bonus points, use @jon’s rules and the longest geodesic distance.

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                            • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

                              @partim @bovine3dom Also, whilst it would maximise it to 3468km, which is the longest we’ve seen yet, I think that 07:15 London Euston to 08:01 London St Pancras connection is very tight given that you have to do security and passport control…

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                              @moof @partim @bovine3dom if you decide that the Caledonian Sleeper won't arrive on time 🤡 then you can extend the starting point to Derby (arr. 0636), but not enough to surpass the other proposed itineraries.

                              (I would venture you can make the connection, if only just, even though it arrives at the furthest platform at Euston and even if you were in the last carriage... as long as it arrives on time.)

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                                @moof @partim @bovine3dom if you decide that the Caledonian Sleeper won't arrive on time 🤡 then you can extend the starting point to Derby (arr. 0636), but not enough to surpass the other proposed itineraries.

                                (I would venture you can make the connection, if only just, even though it arrives at the furthest platform at Euston and even if you were in the last carriage... as long as it arrives on time.)

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                                @tops @partim @bovine3dom Including the passport control, etc, with all the people having to deal with the new EES snafu?

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                                • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

                                  @bovine3dom @partim 3422km on that one, but I am still iffy on the 07:15-08:01 connection through London there

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                                  @moof interrail says to arrive there 35 minutes beforehand. doable with a brisk walk from Euston

                                  i reckon it's solid enough for passenger rights. I'd be more worried about getting across Milan with only 20 minutes to spare for the sleeper (which your route does avoid but feels unsporting)

                                  @partim

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                                  • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

                                    @tops @partim @bovine3dom Including the passport control, etc, with all the people having to deal with the new EES snafu?

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                                    @moof Eurostar will let you jump the queues if you're running a little late. God knows about EES

                                    @tops @partim

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                                    • bovine3dom@masto.aiB bovine3dom@masto.ai

                                      @moof Eurostar will let you jump the queues if you're running a little late. God knows about EES

                                      @tops @partim

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                                      @bovine3dom @tops @partim I think my issue here is that whilst the sort of experienced traveller who would attempt to do this will have no issue with EES, it’s having to deal with the queue of people who have no idea what they are doing and complaining about it when they reach the control point and don’t have the requisite e-paperwork

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                                      • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

                                        @bovine3dom @tops @partim I think my issue here is that whilst the sort of experienced traveller who would attempt to do this will have no issue with EES, it’s having to deal with the queue of people who have no idea what they are doing and complaining about it when they reach the control point and don’t have the requisite e-paperwork

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                                        @moof @bovine3dom @partim still no EES at STP... for now.

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                                        • bovine3dom@masto.aiB bovine3dom@masto.ai

                                          @moof interrail says to arrive there 35 minutes beforehand. doable with a brisk walk from Euston

                                          i reckon it's solid enough for passenger rights. I'd be more worried about getting across Milan with only 20 minutes to spare for the sleeper (which your route does avoid but feels unsporting)

                                          @partim

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                                          @bovine3dom doable with a brisk walk, aye, and... as @moof noted... if you know what you're doing, which in this case means you know the route you're taking as well @partim

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