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An independent Alberta would be "a real sausage party" according to an Angus Reid poll from Feb9.71% of females plan to vote no

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  • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

    @deadDuck Bless. 23% of 'stay' voters say they would stay in a newly independent Alberta.

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    @AlisonCreekside I wonder how many would stay because they want to, versus being stuck here? Or some other reason, like me.

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    • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

      An independent Alberta would be "a real sausage party" according to an Angus Reid poll from Feb9.
      71% of females plan to vote no.
      Of those 81% would leave AB following a yes vote. Modelled out, 58% of all women would leave #Alberta
      Biggest predictor of no vote is gender. #Poll

      From Angus Reid poll data breakdown here :
      https://angusreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/2026.02.07_Separatism_FINALS_PR.pdf
      h/t ‪@sqirlgirly.bsky.social‬ on BSky for link

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      @AlisonCreekside yes, or plan is to move out if it came to that. Husband (4th gen Albertan) is disgusted by the whole thing.

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      • deadduck@zeroes.caD deadduck@zeroes.ca

        @AlisonCreekside I wonder how many would stay because they want to, versus being stuck here? Or some other reason, like me.

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        @deadDuck Bearing in mind it's only a poll, the questions do a pretty good job of parsing out reasons for voting Stay or Leave and whether people expect their own lives to improve or nah and where they get their information from, but still not granular enough to answer your question.

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        • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

          An independent Alberta would be "a real sausage party" according to an Angus Reid poll from Feb9.
          71% of females plan to vote no.
          Of those 81% would leave AB following a yes vote. Modelled out, 58% of all women would leave #Alberta
          Biggest predictor of no vote is gender. #Poll

          From Angus Reid poll data breakdown here :
          https://angusreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/2026.02.07_Separatism_FINALS_PR.pdf
          h/t ‪@sqirlgirly.bsky.social‬ on BSky for link

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          @AlisonCreekside percentage who answer "I would leave" in a survey is not the same as percentage who would leave. Moving is complicated and expensive. You need to find work, housing, a school for your kids.

          58% seems realistic as the percentage who would take at least one step - ask about a work transfer, book an apartment viewing, get an estimate from a moving company - not the percentage who would make it through all the obstacles and finish all the steps.

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          • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

            An independent Alberta would be "a real sausage party" according to an Angus Reid poll from Feb9.
            71% of females plan to vote no.
            Of those 81% would leave AB following a yes vote. Modelled out, 58% of all women would leave #Alberta
            Biggest predictor of no vote is gender. #Poll

            From Angus Reid poll data breakdown here :
            https://angusreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/2026.02.07_Separatism_FINALS_PR.pdf
            h/t ‪@sqirlgirly.bsky.social‬ on BSky for link

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            @AlisonCreekside turns out women are much much smarter than men when it comes to identifying astroturfed attacks based on fake grievances.

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            • dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org

              @AlisonCreekside percentage who answer "I would leave" in a survey is not the same as percentage who would leave. Moving is complicated and expensive. You need to find work, housing, a school for your kids.

              58% seems realistic as the percentage who would take at least one step - ask about a work transfer, book an apartment viewing, get an estimate from a moving company - not the percentage who would make it through all the obstacles and finish all the steps.

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              @dragonfrog @AlisonCreekside To be fair, what you're describing is "under normal circumstances." As in, if you didn't like who was elected premiere or something. Throw in a circumstance as drastic as having your citizenship changed or removed, as well as the opportunity of whether or not the rest of Canada would provide aid to Albertans who wanted to escape, and I think that might change otherwise "realistic" limitations.

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              • space_burger_steve@mstdn.caS space_burger_steve@mstdn.ca

                @dragonfrog @AlisonCreekside To be fair, what you're describing is "under normal circumstances." As in, if you didn't like who was elected premiere or something. Throw in a circumstance as drastic as having your citizenship changed or removed, as well as the opportunity of whether or not the rest of Canada would provide aid to Albertans who wanted to escape, and I think that might change otherwise "realistic" limitations.

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                @dragonfrog @AlisonCreekside Like, I would totally house a family from Alberta that didn't want to stop being Canadian citizens. It would be cramped, but we're describing an extreme circumstance.

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                  @AlisonCreekside turns out women are much much smarter than men when it comes to identifying astroturfed attacks based on fake grievances.

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                  @RowinSpeez We always used to say about polls that Men are from Mars and women are from Venus whatever the issue and regardless of class or education and that gender divide hasn't seemed to change over the decades.
                  Hence myriad polls from Abacus about whether women are warming up to Poilievre yet , answer - No.
                  I think this accounts for the strategy of having flouffy attractive women suddenly being the public face of the Trump government.

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                  • dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org

                    @AlisonCreekside percentage who answer "I would leave" in a survey is not the same as percentage who would leave. Moving is complicated and expensive. You need to find work, housing, a school for your kids.

                    58% seems realistic as the percentage who would take at least one step - ask about a work transfer, book an apartment viewing, get an estimate from a moving company - not the percentage who would make it through all the obstacles and finish all the steps.

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                    @dragonfrog Yes, the question is about theoretical intention not action.

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                    • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

                      An independent Alberta would be "a real sausage party" according to an Angus Reid poll from Feb9.
                      71% of females plan to vote no.
                      Of those 81% would leave AB following a yes vote. Modelled out, 58% of all women would leave #Alberta
                      Biggest predictor of no vote is gender. #Poll

                      From Angus Reid poll data breakdown here :
                      https://angusreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/2026.02.07_Separatism_FINALS_PR.pdf
                      h/t ‪@sqirlgirly.bsky.social‬ on BSky for link

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                      @AlisonCreekside

                      It's interesting that the UCP voters are simply not convinced by any of the obvious downsides of separation. I wonder what issue would given them pause, if any?

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                      • scribblersemporium@mastodon.worldS scribblersemporium@mastodon.world

                        @AlisonCreekside

                        It's interesting that the UCP voters are simply not convinced by any of the obvious downsides of separation. I wonder what issue would given them pause, if any?

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                        @ScribblersEmporium
                        Angus Reid has a chart showing the percentages of respondents who either are or are not convinced by the obvious arguments to Stay or Wexit.
                        It's pretty shocking but then again 23 % of them say they get most of their info from Alberta Prosperity Project events.
                        https://angusreid.org/alberta-unity-separation-smith-carney-prosperity/

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