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Words are not immutable boxes.

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  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

    @androcat @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

    Tangent: The Guardian used to run a micro-cartoon strip called ‘Lost Consonants’. I always wanted to see a sibling cartoon which I imagined to be titled ‘Vowel Movements’.

    Jonathan Schofield (@urlyman@mastodon.social)

    I have been set off on an exercise in Vowel Movements by a combination of @falcennial’s lovely thread https://mastodon.social/@falcennial/116566355537414929 and some earlier vibing https://ioc.exchange/@spanghero/116566995588194763 My openers are… “A nod’s as good as a wank” “A thong of beauty is a joy forever”

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    @urlyman

    The Great Vowel Movement (Shift)

    Oh, by the way, is "having a go" an instance of nouning a verb?

    @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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    • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

      @urlyman

      Didst thou just verb a noun at me?!?

      @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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      @androcat you can count on a man living in the birth city of Dickens to toil at such Twists https://charlesdickensbirthplace.co.uk/

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      • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

        @urlyman

        The Great Vowel Movement (Shift)

        Oh, by the way, is "having a go" an instance of nouning a verb?

        @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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        @androcat depends https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)

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        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

          @androcat you can count on a man living in the birth city of Dickens to toil at such Twists https://charlesdickensbirthplace.co.uk/

          @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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          @urlyman

          Too late I realized, by going from the Dickens to Shakey, I had put myself on a trajectory to Chaucer, which is a bridge too far.

          I did throw in a reference to Middle English though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift

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          • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

            @androcat depends https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)

            @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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            @urlyman

            Having a 圍棋
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            • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

              @urlyman

              Too late I realized, by going from the Dickens to Shakey, I had put myself on a trajectory to Chaucer, which is a bridge too far.

              I did throw in a reference to Middle English though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift

              @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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              @androcat I did not know about England’s massive vowel movement. Thank you. I feel greatly relieved

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              • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                @androcat I did not know about England’s massive vowel movement. Thank you. I feel greatly relieved

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                @urlyman @androcat @spanghero None of us are adulting today, are we?

                We should be ashamed of ourselves!

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                • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

                  @urlyman I'm enjoying how, in informal English at least, it's rapidly becoming acceptable to turn anything into a verb!

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                  @ApostateEnglishman @urlyman If the German language's superpower is its infinite potential for compound words[1], then verbing definitely is English's superpower. Both can produce amazing eloquence... Still, after 23+ years in UK, mentally, I much rather continue to dwell in that realm of verbing, even after I had to return to the "kingdom of nouns"[2] due to Brexit...

                  [1] A great example (song title): Peter Kruder's Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänskajütenremix

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                  [2] A little unrelated (other than the title), but also see: https://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of-nouns.html

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                  • toxi@mastodon.thi.ngT toxi@mastodon.thi.ng

                    @ApostateEnglishman @urlyman If the German language's superpower is its infinite potential for compound words[1], then verbing definitely is English's superpower. Both can produce amazing eloquence... Still, after 23+ years in UK, mentally, I much rather continue to dwell in that realm of verbing, even after I had to return to the "kingdom of nouns"[2] due to Brexit...

                    [1] A great example (song title): Peter Kruder's Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänskajütenremix

                    - YouTube

                    Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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                    [2] A little unrelated (other than the title), but also see: https://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of-nouns.html

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                    @toxi that is a *vibe* 😎

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                    • toxi@mastodon.thi.ngT toxi@mastodon.thi.ng

                      @ApostateEnglishman @urlyman If the German language's superpower is its infinite potential for compound words[1], then verbing definitely is English's superpower. Both can produce amazing eloquence... Still, after 23+ years in UK, mentally, I much rather continue to dwell in that realm of verbing, even after I had to return to the "kingdom of nouns"[2] due to Brexit...

                      [1] A great example (song title): Peter Kruder's Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänskajütenremix

                      - YouTube

                      Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

                      favicon

                      (www.youtube.com)

                      [2] A little unrelated (other than the title), but also see: https://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of-nouns.html

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                      @toxi @urlyman Oh absolutely! I cannot myself speak German, but my housemate is fluent and has often said that creatively compounding words is delightful fun that English-speakers will never quite grasp.

                      I would support this being incorporated into English. If we can verb nouns then we can compound them, dammit! Let's break down these walls! Let's have a breakdownwallexcitementfest! ✊🏼

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