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Words are not immutable boxes.

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  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

    Words are not immutable boxes. We may wish for their boundaries to be protected but they cannot be.

    We cannot stop ‘sick’ becoming ‘good’, or ‘oversight’ meaning to oversee and also to miss through inattention.

    The job of words is to be understood *in the moment*, in a context. For their intent to be a discernible eddy in a current.

    And then the current flows on by and there is no protection to be had

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    …We can for sure argue about inadvisable use, and disagree about intent

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    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

      Words are not immutable boxes. We may wish for their boundaries to be protected but they cannot be.

      We cannot stop ‘sick’ becoming ‘good’, or ‘oversight’ meaning to oversee and also to miss through inattention.

      The job of words is to be understood *in the moment*, in a context. For their intent to be a discernible eddy in a current.

      And then the current flows on by and there is no protection to be had

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      @urlyman I'm enjoying how, in informal English at least, it's rapidly becoming acceptable to turn anything into a verb!

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      • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

        @urlyman I'm enjoying how, in informal English at least, it's rapidly becoming acceptable to turn anything into a verb!

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        @ApostateEnglishman @urlyman Verbing, as it were.
        Edit: or is it Verb vibing?
        Edit to edit: or vibe verbing?

        It’s best if I stop now.

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        • spanghero@ioc.exchangeS spanghero@ioc.exchange

          @ApostateEnglishman @urlyman Verbing, as it were.
          Edit: or is it Verb vibing?
          Edit to edit: or vibe verbing?

          It’s best if I stop now.

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          @spanghero @urlyman Vibe verbing?

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          • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

            @spanghero @urlyman Vibe verbing?

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            @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

            Good, good, good, good verbrations 🙂

            Mbop

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            • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

              @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

              Good, good, good, good verbrations 🙂

              Mbop

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              @urlyman @spanghero 😆

              Okay, as Jonathan has won today's interwebs we can all pack up and go home now.

              We'll get another run at it tomorrow.

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              • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

                @urlyman @spanghero 😆

                Okay, as Jonathan has won today's interwebs we can all pack up and go home now.

                We'll get another run at it tomorrow.

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                @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

                too kind. Delighted to be vibing with the pair of you 😊

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                • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                  @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

                  too kind. Delighted to be vibing with the pair of you 😊

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                  @urlyman @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

                  The word 'Verbrations' insists on being decoded in my head as "verb rations".

                  In this viewpoint, the poor english-speaking paupers went up to the Workhouse Master and asked "Please Sir. May I have some verbs?" and were chastised and sent away verbless.
                  And so they had no choice but to verb some nouns, as they had spent all their verb rations.

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                  • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                    @urlyman @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

                    The word 'Verbrations' insists on being decoded in my head as "verb rations".

                    In this viewpoint, the poor english-speaking paupers went up to the Workhouse Master and asked "Please Sir. May I have some verbs?" and were chastised and sent away verbless.
                    And so they had no choice but to verb some nouns, as they had spent all their verb rations.

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                    @androcat gruel-ing 😉

                    @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                      @androcat gruel-ing 😉

                      @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                      @urlyman

                      Didst thou just verb a noun at me?!?

                      @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                      • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                        @androcat gruel-ing 😉

                        @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                        @androcat @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

                        Tangent: The Guardian used to run a micro-cartoon strip called ‘Lost Consonants’. I always wanted to see a sibling cartoon which I imagined to be titled ‘Vowel Movements’.

                        Jonathan Schofield (@urlyman@mastodon.social)

                        I have been set off on an exercise in Vowel Movements by a combination of @falcennial’s lovely thread https://mastodon.social/@falcennial/116566355537414929 and some earlier vibing https://ioc.exchange/@spanghero/116566995588194763 My openers are… “A nod’s as good as a wank” “A thong of beauty is a joy forever”

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                        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                          @androcat @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

                          Tangent: The Guardian used to run a micro-cartoon strip called ‘Lost Consonants’. I always wanted to see a sibling cartoon which I imagined to be titled ‘Vowel Movements’.

                          Jonathan Schofield (@urlyman@mastodon.social)

                          I have been set off on an exercise in Vowel Movements by a combination of @falcennial’s lovely thread https://mastodon.social/@falcennial/116566355537414929 and some earlier vibing https://ioc.exchange/@spanghero/116566995588194763 My openers are… “A nod’s as good as a wank” “A thong of beauty is a joy forever”

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                          @urlyman

                          The Great Vowel Movement (Shift)

                          Oh, by the way, is "having a go" an instance of nouning a verb?

                          @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                          • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                            @urlyman

                            Didst thou just verb a noun at me?!?

                            @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                            @androcat you can count on a man living in the birth city of Dickens to toil at such Twists https://charlesdickensbirthplace.co.uk/

                            @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                            • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                              @urlyman

                              The Great Vowel Movement (Shift)

                              Oh, by the way, is "having a go" an instance of nouning a verb?

                              @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                              @androcat depends https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)

                              @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                              • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                @androcat you can count on a man living in the birth city of Dickens to toil at such Twists https://charlesdickensbirthplace.co.uk/

                                @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                                @urlyman

                                Too late I realized, by going from the Dickens to Shakey, I had put myself on a trajectory to Chaucer, which is a bridge too far.

                                I did throw in a reference to Middle English though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift

                                @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                                • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                  @androcat depends https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)

                                  @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                                  @urlyman

                                  Having a 圍棋
                                  @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                                    @urlyman

                                    Too late I realized, by going from the Dickens to Shakey, I had put myself on a trajectory to Chaucer, which is a bridge too far.

                                    I did throw in a reference to Middle English though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift

                                    @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                                    @androcat I did not know about England’s massive vowel movement. Thank you. I feel greatly relieved

                                    @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                                    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                      @androcat I did not know about England’s massive vowel movement. Thank you. I feel greatly relieved

                                      @ApostateEnglishman @spanghero

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                                      @urlyman @androcat @spanghero None of us are adulting today, are we?

                                      We should be ashamed of ourselves!

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                                      • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

                                        @urlyman I'm enjoying how, in informal English at least, it's rapidly becoming acceptable to turn anything into a verb!

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                                        @ApostateEnglishman @urlyman If the German language's superpower is its infinite potential for compound words[1], then verbing definitely is English's superpower. Both can produce amazing eloquence... Still, after 23+ years in UK, mentally, I much rather continue to dwell in that realm of verbing, even after I had to return to the "kingdom of nouns"[2] due to Brexit...

                                        [1] A great example (song title): Peter Kruder's Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänskajütenremix

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                                        [2] A little unrelated (other than the title), but also see: https://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of-nouns.html

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                                        • toxi@mastodon.thi.ngT toxi@mastodon.thi.ng

                                          @ApostateEnglishman @urlyman If the German language's superpower is its infinite potential for compound words[1], then verbing definitely is English's superpower. Both can produce amazing eloquence... Still, after 23+ years in UK, mentally, I much rather continue to dwell in that realm of verbing, even after I had to return to the "kingdom of nouns"[2] due to Brexit...

                                          [1] A great example (song title): Peter Kruder's Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänskajütenremix

                                          - YouTube

                                          Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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                                          [2] A little unrelated (other than the title), but also see: https://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of-nouns.html

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                                          @toxi that is a *vibe* 😎

                                          @ApostateEnglishman

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