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  3. Bit of a long shot but I’m looking (again!) for a Mac OS9 driver for the FW iSight webcam.

Bit of a long shot but I’m looking (again!) for a Mac OS9 driver for the FW iSight webcam.

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  • fergycool@mastodon.socialF fergycool@mastodon.social

    Bit of a long shot but I’m looking (again!) for a Mac OS9 driver for the FW iSight webcam. It was not supported until OSX by Apple. But IOXperts did a beta driver that I'm guessing does support it (I think!). Unfortunately archive.org does not archive FTP and that's the only links I can find. I've been through all the other drivers and it's just “iSight1.1b26.sit” that I cannot find. I've just spent an hour trawling through Hotline servers with no luck! https://web.archive.org/web/20080623093642/http://lists.ioxperts.com/pipermail/video-beta-discuss/2003-October/000015.html

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    @fergycool I wrote drivers for Mac OS8. I think OS9 had a similar driver setup, but I don't have an environment to build that code, or I might offer to write it for you. Perhaps someone here can find it. Good luck!

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    • fergycool@mastodon.socialF fergycool@mastodon.social

      Bit of a long shot but I’m looking (again!) for a Mac OS9 driver for the FW iSight webcam. It was not supported until OSX by Apple. But IOXperts did a beta driver that I'm guessing does support it (I think!). Unfortunately archive.org does not archive FTP and that's the only links I can find. I've been through all the other drivers and it's just “iSight1.1b26.sit” that I cannot find. I've just spent an hour trawling through Hotline servers with no luck! https://web.archive.org/web/20080623093642/http://lists.ioxperts.com/pipermail/video-beta-discuss/2003-October/000015.html

      misty@digipres.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @fergycool I don't have an answer, but I *am* surprised to find out their mailing list is still up even after the rest of their web presence went down! Wonder who's keeping that up.

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      • misty@digipres.clubM misty@digipres.club

        @fergycool I don't have an answer, but I *am* surprised to find out their mailing list is still up even after the rest of their web presence went down! Wonder who's keeping that up.

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        @fergycool Looks like at least some of their HTTP downloads were archived, which makes me wonder if you could guess the URL of where the iSight driver could have been and find an archived file there? https://web.archive.org/web/20170202203505/http://ioxperts.com/products/dcam_os89.html

        Unfortunately I can't get the wayback machine's filter site by file thing to work right now, otherwise that could have been a useful way to find it. https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.ioxperts.com/downloads/*

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        • misty@digipres.clubM misty@digipres.club

          @fergycool Looks like at least some of their HTTP downloads were archived, which makes me wonder if you could guess the URL of where the iSight driver could have been and find an archived file there? https://web.archive.org/web/20170202203505/http://ioxperts.com/products/dcam_os89.html

          Unfortunately I can't get the wayback machine's filter site by file thing to work right now, otherwise that could have been a useful way to find it. https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.ioxperts.com/downloads/*

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          @misty @fergycool unfortunately, I was able to search the WBM using the filename filter earlier today and the file is most definitely not archived.

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          • fergycool@mastodon.socialF fergycool@mastodon.social

            Bit of a long shot but I’m looking (again!) for a Mac OS9 driver for the FW iSight webcam. It was not supported until OSX by Apple. But IOXperts did a beta driver that I'm guessing does support it (I think!). Unfortunately archive.org does not archive FTP and that's the only links I can find. I've been through all the other drivers and it's just “iSight1.1b26.sit” that I cannot find. I've just spent an hour trawling through Hotline servers with no luck! https://web.archive.org/web/20080623093642/http://lists.ioxperts.com/pipermail/video-beta-discuss/2003-October/000015.html

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            @fergycool what Mac are you running it on? From what I recall (I was working on QuickTime Video capture at the time) the FireWire DMA was tricky to get right and the autofocus noise supression would leave sync gaps in the audio.

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            • misty@digipres.clubM misty@digipres.club

              @fergycool I don't have an answer, but I *am* surprised to find out their mailing list is still up even after the rest of their web presence went down! Wonder who's keeping that up.

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              @misty That did surprise me too! Which makes me think there's hope to find the driver!

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              • vga256@mastodon.tomodori.netV vga256@mastodon.tomodori.net

                @misty @fergycool unfortunately, I was able to search the WBM using the filename filter earlier today and the file is most definitely not archived.

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                @vga256 @misty Their drivers downloads were mostly HTTP link and have been archived. But the Mac OS9 iSight driver was still a beta and I can only find FTP links to it. Also their Mac OS9 IIDC drivers are also FTP links only. I’ve given all the Mac OS9 drivers I can download a try, with no luck!

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                • kevinmarks@xoxo.zoneK kevinmarks@xoxo.zone

                  @fergycool what Mac are you running it on? From what I recall (I was working on QuickTime Video capture at the time) the FireWire DMA was tricky to get right and the autofocus noise supression would leave sync gaps in the audio.

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                  @KevinMarks Thanks. For me a G4 Mac Mini primarily. Mac OS9 is installed from the MacOS9lives installer that uses the G4 Cube rom to trick the installer.

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                  • steter@mastodon.stevesworld.coS steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co

                    @fergycool I wrote drivers for Mac OS8. I think OS9 had a similar driver setup, but I don't have an environment to build that code, or I might offer to write it for you. Perhaps someone here can find it. Good luck!

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                    @steter Thanks!

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                    • fergycool@mastodon.socialF fergycool@mastodon.social

                      @vga256 @misty Their drivers downloads were mostly HTTP link and have been archived. But the Mac OS9 iSight driver was still a beta and I can only find FTP links to it. Also their Mac OS9 IIDC drivers are also FTP links only. I’ve given all the Mac OS9 drivers I can download a try, with no luck!

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                      @fergycool would the IIDC OS9 driver be of any help to you? I *did* manage to find that one yesterday:

                      https://discmaster.textfiles.com/file/44218/Macworld%20144.iso/Macworld%20on%20CD/Pilotes%20pour%20Mac%20OS%20X/Autres/IIDC1.1b17.sit

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                      • vga256@mastodon.tomodori.netV vga256@mastodon.tomodori.net

                        @fergycool would the IIDC OS9 driver be of any help to you? I *did* manage to find that one yesterday:

                        https://discmaster.textfiles.com/file/44218/Macworld%20144.iso/Macworld%20on%20CD/Pilotes%20pour%20Mac%20OS%20X/Autres/IIDC1.1b17.sit

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                        @vga256 Nice one! I looked, but failed, to find that one! You have better “finding obscure stuff” skills than me! I will give it a go now!

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                        • fergycool@mastodon.socialF fergycool@mastodon.social

                          @vga256 Nice one! I looked, but failed, to find that one! You have better “finding obscure stuff” skills than me! I will give it a go now!

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                          @vga256 So no video but progress! I've been testing video from the webcam with BTV 5.4.1. Up to now it immediately complains there's no video hardware. Even with all the other drivers I have tried. But now it shows a white box! If I unplug the iSight then it instead complains there's no video hardware. Secondly I'm now getting “shareware nags" from the IOXperts driver saying it’s unlicensed. If I unplug the iSight then I get no reminders. So I’m sure it's recognising the iSight.

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                          • fergycool@mastodon.socialF fergycool@mastodon.social

                            @vga256 So no video but progress! I've been testing video from the webcam with BTV 5.4.1. Up to now it immediately complains there's no video hardware. Even with all the other drivers I have tried. But now it shows a white box! If I unplug the iSight then it instead complains there's no video hardware. Secondly I'm now getting “shareware nags" from the IOXperts driver saying it’s unlicensed. If I unplug the iSight then I get no reminders. So I’m sure it's recognising the iSight.

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                            @fergycool Haha wow. well, that's a step in the right direction 😄

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                            • vga256@mastodon.tomodori.netV vga256@mastodon.tomodori.net

                              @fergycool Haha wow. well, that's a step in the right direction 😄

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                              @vga256 ...and now you are going to properly Roll about On the Floor Laughing! - I had the aperture shut on the iSight! Opened it up and ….Tadaaa! Video.

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                              • fergycool@mastodon.socialF fergycool@mastodon.social

                                @vga256 ...and now you are going to properly Roll about On the Floor Laughing! - I had the aperture shut on the iSight! Opened it up and ….Tadaaa! Video.

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                                @fergycool no way! that is fantastic! i should have sent the driver yesterday when I found it - i just assumed it wasn't related to the isight due to the filename.

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                                • vga256@mastodon.tomodori.netV vga256@mastodon.tomodori.net

                                  @fergycool no way! that is fantastic! i should have sent the driver yesterday when I found it - i just assumed it wasn't related to the isight due to the filename.

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                                  @vga256 I did not think it would work, however, @Eggfreckles pointed me to a different driver for a different webcam which said it supported all IIDC webcams. I checked and supposedly the iSight supports the IIDC specification too! Unfortunately that did not work. So I tried to look for the IOXperts IIDC Mac OS 9 driver but I could not get it! But you did so thank you! I just need a mount now for my monitor! 🙂

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                                    @vga256 I did not think it would work, however, @Eggfreckles pointed me to a different driver for a different webcam which said it supported all IIDC webcams. I checked and supposedly the iSight supports the IIDC specification too! Unfortunately that did not work. So I tried to look for the IOXperts IIDC Mac OS 9 driver but I could not get it! But you did so thank you! I just need a mount now for my monitor! 🙂

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                                    @vga256 @Eggfreckles Adding in @danieltufvesson who also has an iSight and is looking for Mac OS9 drivers!

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                                    • fergycool@mastodon.socialF fergycool@mastodon.social

                                      @vga256 I did not think it would work, however, @Eggfreckles pointed me to a different driver for a different webcam which said it supported all IIDC webcams. I checked and supposedly the iSight supports the IIDC specification too! Unfortunately that did not work. So I tried to look for the IOXperts IIDC Mac OS 9 driver but I could not get it! But you did so thank you! I just need a mount now for my monitor! 🙂

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                                      @fergycool ah ha so awesome to see it working. i’ll upload a copy to IA so no one else will have to dig

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                                      • fergycool@mastodon.socialF fergycool@mastodon.social

                                        Bit of a long shot but I’m looking (again!) for a Mac OS9 driver for the FW iSight webcam. It was not supported until OSX by Apple. But IOXperts did a beta driver that I'm guessing does support it (I think!). Unfortunately archive.org does not archive FTP and that's the only links I can find. I've been through all the other drivers and it's just “iSight1.1b26.sit” that I cannot find. I've just spent an hour trawling through Hotline servers with no luck! https://web.archive.org/web/20080623093642/http://lists.ioxperts.com/pipermail/video-beta-discuss/2003-October/000015.html

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                                        @fergycool @DosFox What about this? I was able to download that .sit

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                                        FireWire Webcam Driver for Mac OS 8-9

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                                        https://web.archive.org/web/20041009212149/http://www.ioxperts.com/downloads/DCam/Release/MacOS/FWWebCamDriver.sit

                                        Edit: dang, maybe not, oh well >v<
                                        https://mastodon.social/@fergycool/116557596750500736

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                                        • colinstu@birdbutt.comC colinstu@birdbutt.com

                                          @fergycool @DosFox What about this? I was able to download that .sit

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                                          FireWire Webcam Driver for Mac OS 8-9

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                                          https://web.archive.org/web/20041009212149/http://www.ioxperts.com/downloads/DCam/Release/MacOS/FWWebCamDriver.sit

                                          Edit: dang, maybe not, oh well >v<
                                          https://mastodon.social/@fergycool/116557596750500736

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                                          @colinstu @DosFox Yup. I've tried that one a few times. The ones that say they support iSight on Mac OS9 are only beta drivers and they used FTP instead of HTTP links which have not been archived by WBM. But @vga256 found the IIDC beta driver. I can confirm that it does work! There's also a iSight1.1b26.sit file that remains unfound! Although no idea what extra functionality that offers over the IIDC ones.

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