Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it.
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@thomasdorr @nixCraft You don't have to use Windows on almost any laptop. Even Huawei/Honor laptops can run Linux. And their metallic cases are top-notch.
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For us, definitely.For (pick old relative) it is not usually a good plan.
Also it is likely that the device cost includes the microslop tax
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@raymaccarthy I like FreeBSD but you have to try out all of them because they do have different ways to do things.
@nixCraft
I would have done that maybe 20 years ago. Now I'm only interested in using it. That's why I mentioned I'm happy with Linux Mint + Mate + X11. I have also Cinnamon, XFCE, ICeWM etc installed on some to look at and as fall back if I break Mate.
I might have tried Free BSD very long ago (I did once install Xenix from floppies).
I also have Pi4B (2G RAM) with only SD Card. It's gathering dust.
I see https://www.freebsd.org/where/Do I download memstick.img?
https://download.freebsd.org/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/15.0/ -
my advice is still the same. get a cheaper (used) thinkpad (or brand of your choice) and install Linux or *BSD that doesn't have corporate backing or age/kyc verification nonsense added. always install an ad blocker, script blocker, and dns level filtering just in case for your own safety (also install those on your parents and friends family computers).
say no to microslop and their stupid apps. enough is enough.
@nixCraft I've seen several times people recommending the ThinkPad. Why do you recommend that particular model ?
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there is an old saying: vote with your wallet. Microsoft is now finding out that people have choices. This is not the 90s or 2000s of Bill Gates era anymore where you can abuse everything and get away with it.
@nixCraft A good reminder. I have a day off today and 2 workstations that need an upgrade from Win 11 to a flavour of Linux.
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@nixCraft 99% of the reason I still have Windows is just gaming. The day Linux has a half-cooked alternative I'll be out.
@twit_terrorist @nixCraft protondb.com
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@twit_terrorist @nixCraft depends on what games you play. I use exclusively Linux for gaming for like 2-2,5 years now and i think i haven't met a game that i would want to play a lot and it wouldn't work on Linux. With that said, i don't play heavily competitive games with anticheats. I play two games with anticheat that works on Linux and these games are The Division 2 and Arc Raiders and i have zero problems with them
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Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
1 Increased Linux gaming
2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/@nixCraft we need to criticize them more
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there is an old saying: vote with your wallet. Microsoft is now finding out that people have choices. This is not the 90s or 2000s of Bill Gates era anymore where you can abuse everything and get away with it.
@nixCraft TBH, I feel like we had more desktop choice in the 90's. Amiga was still kicking, Sun was still kicking, Atari was still kicking, OS/2 existed, IBM DOS7 existed...
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Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
1 Increased Linux gaming
2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/@nixCraft as always, shitting on ms always has a positive effect.
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@nixCraft TBH, I feel like we had more desktop choice in the 90's. Amiga was still kicking, Sun was still kicking, Atari was still kicking, OS/2 existed, IBM DOS7 existed...
@Emerson61 @nixCraft
all listed were proprietary or closed source. although users could run programs freely.now we have linux and many bsd options. maybe also some other open source operating systems.
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@nixCraft To be honest, the Macbook Neo is trash. Even for the price tag. Way too many bad compromises.
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Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
1 Increased Linux gaming
2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/@nixCraft
as a generic comment.apple may not force apple intelligence, but they have one and it is in that awful neo junk.
apple is no better than microslop with its windows sloppification system.
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@twit_terrorist same.. steam seems to be getting us closer.
Fittingness was always possible.
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there is an old saying: vote with your wallet. Microsoft is now finding out that people have choices. This is not the 90s or 2000s of Bill Gates era anymore where you can abuse everything and get away with it.
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Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
1 Increased Linux gaming
2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/@nixCraft I'll believe it when I see it. The business case is still painfully obvious:
1) turn on Copilot by default in all Office365 apps, integrating access to all business data of its users.
2) Copilot suggests email responses based on this
3) managers seamlessly integrate Copilot into their workflow, without ever deciding to
4) since everyone's LLM is different, the managers will be unable to leave Azure/Windows
5) increase the price! Locked-in companies ftw -
Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
1 Increased Linux gaming
2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/@nixCraft i will believe when i c these changes.
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@Emerson61 @nixCraft
all listed were proprietary or closed source. although users could run programs freely.now we have linux and many bsd options. maybe also some other open source operating systems.
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Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
1 Increased Linux gaming
2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/@nixCraft every other time I reboot my win10 pc, they beg me to install win11. I've hit "remind me later" and "decline upgrade" so many times already. It would be annoying but somewhere, some chart on some middle manager's dashboard doesn't show line going up because of me (and those like me) and that brings me great joy.
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Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
1 Increased Linux gaming
2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/@nixCraft Aren't majority of Linux projects using AI too?
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@nixCraft What do YOU like for a Linux gaming platform?
