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  3. Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it.

Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it.

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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
    1 Increased Linux gaming
    2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
    3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
    4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/

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    @nixCraft we need to criticize them more

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      there is an old saying: vote with your wallet. Microsoft is now finding out that people have choices. This is not the 90s or 2000s of Bill Gates era anymore where you can abuse everything and get away with it.

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      @nixCraft TBH, I feel like we had more desktop choice in the 90's. Amiga was still kicking, Sun was still kicking, Atari was still kicking, OS/2 existed, IBM DOS7 existed...

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
        1 Increased Linux gaming
        2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
        3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
        4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/

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        @nixCraft as always, shitting on ms always has a positive effect.

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        • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

          @nixCraft TBH, I feel like we had more desktop choice in the 90's. Amiga was still kicking, Sun was still kicking, Atari was still kicking, OS/2 existed, IBM DOS7 existed...

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          @Emerson61 @nixCraft
          all listed were proprietary or closed source. although users could run programs freely.

          now we have linux and many bsd options. maybe also some other open source operating systems.

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          • m1rk0@social.defcon42.netM m1rk0@social.defcon42.net

            @nixCraft To be honest, the Macbook Neo is trash. Even for the price tag. Way too many bad compromises.

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            @m1rk0 @nixCraft
            (DIS)honorable mention: apple intelligence.

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
              1 Increased Linux gaming
              2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
              3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
              4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/

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              @nixCraft
              as a generic comment.

              apple may not force apple intelligence, but they have one and it is in that awful neo junk.

              apple is no better than microslop with its windows sloppification system.

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              • stonedonkey@mastodon.socialS stonedonkey@mastodon.social

                @twit_terrorist same.. steam seems to be getting us closer.

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                @stonedonkey

                Fittingness was always possible.

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  there is an old saying: vote with your wallet. Microsoft is now finding out that people have choices. This is not the 90s or 2000s of Bill Gates era anymore where you can abuse everything and get away with it.

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                  @nixCraft bill Gates, an abuser?!

                  Gasp.

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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
                    1 Increased Linux gaming
                    2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
                    3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
                    4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/

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                    @nixCraft I'll believe it when I see it. The business case is still painfully obvious:

                    1) turn on Copilot by default in all Office365 apps, integrating access to all business data of its users.
                    2) Copilot suggests email responses based on this
                    3) managers seamlessly integrate Copilot into their workflow, without ever deciding to
                    4) since everyone's LLM is different, the managers will be unable to leave Azure/Windows
                    5) increase the price! Locked-in companies ftw

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                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                      Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
                      1 Increased Linux gaming
                      2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
                      3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
                      4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/

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                      @nixCraft i will believe when i c these changes.

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                      • zetabeta@mastodon.socialZ zetabeta@mastodon.social

                        @Emerson61 @nixCraft
                        all listed were proprietary or closed source. although users could run programs freely.

                        now we have linux and many bsd options. maybe also some other open source operating systems.

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                        @zetabeta @nixCraft We had Linux. It wasn't great, but I daily drove it and it was mostly fine before SSL came along and then there were no Linux browsers that supported it for like two plus years. I just didn't bother mentioning anything that still exists like macOS and BSD, etc

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                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                          Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
                          1 Increased Linux gaming
                          2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
                          3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
                          4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/

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                          @nixCraft every other time I reboot my win10 pc, they beg me to install win11. I've hit "remind me later" and "decline upgrade" so many times already. It would be annoying but somewhere, some chart on some middle manager's dashboard doesn't show line going up because of me (and those like me) and that brings me great joy.

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                          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                            Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
                            1 Increased Linux gaming
                            2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
                            3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
                            4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/

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                            @nixCraft Aren't majority of Linux projects using AI too?

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                            • sempf@infosec.exchangeS sempf@infosec.exchange

                              @nixCraft What do YOU like for a Linux gaming platform?

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                              @Sempf @nixCraft my steamdeck when I'm gaming on linux.

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                              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                there is an old saying: vote with your wallet. Microsoft is now finding out that people have choices. This is not the 90s or 2000s of Bill Gates era anymore where you can abuse everything and get away with it.

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                                @nixCraft I was rocking BeOS in the late 90's on my server while using an iMac πŸ™‚ Worked on a Windows call centre all day there was no way I wanted to do tech support for myself at home as well! πŸ˜ƒ

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                                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                  my advice is still the same. get a cheaper (used) thinkpad (or brand of your choice) and install Linux or *BSD that doesn't have corporate backing or age/kyc verification nonsense added. always install an ad blocker, script blocker, and dns level filtering just in case for your own safety (also install those on your parents and friends family computers).

                                  say no to microslop and their stupid apps. enough is enough.

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                                  @nixCraft I had a 10 year old Lenovo Yoga.. excellent product.. replaced the battery.. replaced W11pro with Linux and the latest Mint distro.. my live makes sense again and the digital sovereignty is a step closer πŸ™πŸ€£

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                                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                    Microsoft spent 4 years stuffing Windows 11 with unwanted ads, forced Copilot integrations, stealing data to train its shity AI and other bloatware, now they want applause for promising to remove it. Reasons for a Change of Heart:
                                    1 Increased Linux gaming
                                    2 Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI
                                    3 The "Microslop" social media shaming campaign
                                    4 Increased costs due to AI leading to almost 0 ROI since there is no consumer demand https://www.sambent.com/microsofts-plan-to-fix-windows-11-is-gaslighting/

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                                    @nixCraft I would reverse #1 (Increased Linux gaming ) and #2 (Apple's entry into the low end PC market with 0 forced AI). IMHO it's #MacBookNeo that's getting #Microsoft to #debloat #Windows11. Lots of people, including me as I wrote about in https://mathstodon.xyz/@nm/116213427926279044, are so fed up with #Windows that we're switching to #macOS. Thank you #Apple for #MacBook #Neo and maybe helping to make Windows a little saner.

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                                    • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                                      @nixCraft
                                      I would have done that maybe 20 years ago. Now I'm only interested in using it. That's why I mentioned I'm happy with Linux Mint + Mate + X11. I have also Cinnamon, XFCE, ICeWM etc installed on some to look at and as fall back if I break Mate.
                                      I might have tried Free BSD very long ago (I did once install Xenix from floppies).
                                      I also have Pi4B (2G RAM) with only SD Card. It's gathering dust.
                                      I see https://www.freebsd.org/where/

                                      Do I download memstick.img?
                                      https://download.freebsd.org/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/15.0/

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                                      @raymaccarthy @nixCraft Docs? Pfft. Grab a USB, NomadBSD, and chill

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                                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                        my advice is still the same. get a cheaper (used) thinkpad (or brand of your choice) and install Linux or *BSD that doesn't have corporate backing or age/kyc verification nonsense added. always install an ad blocker, script blocker, and dns level filtering just in case for your own safety (also install those on your parents and friends family computers).

                                        say no to microslop and their stupid apps. enough is enough.

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                                        @nixCraft I literally just got my hands on a Thinkpad W530 last week. Did the 7 row mod, EC and BIOS flash, threw on Fedora Budgie Atomic (really don't want my laptop being unstable, old hardware risks support being dropped). Of course now that that's all said and done I read that they're looking at implementing age verification. "Non-intrusively" but it's still opening the door for more bullshit down the road...

                                        Any suggestions for a distro to hop to from there? Or maybe waiting and seeing how it goes and jumping ship if it gets implemented?

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                                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                          my advice is still the same. get a cheaper (used) thinkpad (or brand of your choice) and install Linux or *BSD that doesn't have corporate backing or age/kyc verification nonsense added. always install an ad blocker, script blocker, and dns level filtering just in case for your own safety (also install those on your parents and friends family computers).

                                          say no to microslop and their stupid apps. enough is enough.

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                                          @nixCraft

                                          Was very proud of my father in law when I discovered he had wiped Microsoft off his laptop and surface pro. He's a Linux man now πŸ™‚
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