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Well, well, well, Prof. Sam Lawler @sundogplanets have you seen this?

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  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

    Well, well, well, Prof. Sam Lawler @sundogplanets have you seen this?

    Paulus (@PaulusMc70@mastodon.social)

    SpaceX Quietly Admits to a Threat It Helped Create, and Can’t Stop https://247wallst.com/investing/2026/05/30/spacex-quietly-admits-to-a-threat-it-helped-create-and-cant-stop/

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    "Buried deep in SpaceX’s freshly filed IPO paperwork..."

    "The pre-IPO disclosures lay it out cleanly. SpaceX warns that “the continued proliferation of satellite constellations in Low-Earth Orbit, as well as the risk of collisions with space debris or other spacecraft, could limit or impair our launch flexibility and satellite deployment.”

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    #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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    @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets

    A meteor could make space the final frontier for humankind decades in the future.

    If GPS were in any way disrupted because of Space junk just getting in the way of the signal those affect would probably shut down the global economy enlarge measure.

    The modern economy has long stringy, thin and brittle supply chains strung out everywhere, everywhere around around the globe and in orbit.

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    • w6kme@mastodon.radioW w6kme@mastodon.radio

      @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets The night skies will be awesome to look at for a year or two at least once The Great Cleanup starts.

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      @W6KME @sundogplanets

      We are clearly going to need a Starship that can refuel in orbit for The Great Cleanup

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      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

        Well, well, well, Prof. Sam Lawler @sundogplanets have you seen this?

        Paulus (@PaulusMc70@mastodon.social)

        SpaceX Quietly Admits to a Threat It Helped Create, and Can’t Stop https://247wallst.com/investing/2026/05/30/spacex-quietly-admits-to-a-threat-it-helped-create-and-cant-stop/

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        Mastodon (mastodon.social)

        "Buried deep in SpaceX’s freshly filed IPO paperwork..."

        "The pre-IPO disclosures lay it out cleanly. SpaceX warns that “the continued proliferation of satellite constellations in Low-Earth Orbit, as well as the risk of collisions with space debris or other spacecraft, could limit or impair our launch flexibility and satellite deployment.”

        more...

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        #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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        @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets

        SpaceX has made similar statements before. What they imply is that satellite constellations by other operators may raise the risk of collisions and space debris, not their own.

        They can use that argument to influence the FCC to block their competitor's systems.

        The stmt about "cascading collision event that renders our licensed orbits unusable for an extended period” is in the context of natural disasters,, cyberattacks, etc.

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        • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

          @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets

          SpaceX has made similar statements before. What they imply is that satellite constellations by other operators may raise the risk of collisions and space debris, not their own.

          They can use that argument to influence the FCC to block their competitor's systems.

          The stmt about "cascading collision event that renders our licensed orbits unusable for an extended period” is in the context of natural disasters,, cyberattacks, etc.

          SEC.gov | Your Request Originates from an Undeclared Automated Tool

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          @AkaSci @sundogplanets

          Good points. Had not thought of using this rationale to pressure the FCC to block competitors. Nothing is surprising about these guys.

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          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

            @sundogplanets

            And the kicker...

            "A worst-case scenario is flagged: a strike that could “trigger a cascading collision event that renders our licensed orbits, and potentially other orbits, unusable for an extended period."

            SpaceX S1: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm

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            #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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            @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets So the excitement will be finding out what gets vapourised faster: the Starlink constellation, or the retirement savings of millions of Americans.

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            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

              Well, well, well, Prof. Sam Lawler @sundogplanets have you seen this?

              Paulus (@PaulusMc70@mastodon.social)

              SpaceX Quietly Admits to a Threat It Helped Create, and Can’t Stop https://247wallst.com/investing/2026/05/30/spacex-quietly-admits-to-a-threat-it-helped-create-and-cant-stop/

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              "Buried deep in SpaceX’s freshly filed IPO paperwork..."

              "The pre-IPO disclosures lay it out cleanly. SpaceX warns that “the continued proliferation of satellite constellations in Low-Earth Orbit, as well as the risk of collisions with space debris or other spacecraft, could limit or impair our launch flexibility and satellite deployment.”

              more...

              1/

              #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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              @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets
              Well from the information available lately, humans in space is not a good long term goal. Going to Mars would not workout. Our kidneys don't like being in space. Our cluttered area around the low Earth orbit will make going to the moon or Mars impossible or very dangerous.

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              • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets

                SpaceX has made similar statements before. What they imply is that satellite constellations by other operators may raise the risk of collisions and space debris, not their own.

                They can use that argument to influence the FCC to block their competitor's systems.

                The stmt about "cascading collision event that renders our licensed orbits unusable for an extended period” is in the context of natural disasters,, cyberattacks, etc.

                SEC.gov | Your Request Originates from an Undeclared Automated Tool

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                @AkaSci @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets AFAIK the FCC only control US businesses access to space. I understood that amongst others the Chinese also have plans...

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                Noting also that Starlink is the only profitable bit of SpaceX (launching rockets and being an also run AI company are not) but clearly their exponential growth of satellite telecom is not going to continue as near-earth orbit saturates, so SpaceX as a whole is clearly enormously overvalued and the IPO is just a scam to allow Musk to cash out at the expense of Musk groupies and your pension investments tied up in Index Funds.

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                • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                  Well, well, well, Prof. Sam Lawler @sundogplanets have you seen this?

                  Paulus (@PaulusMc70@mastodon.social)

                  SpaceX Quietly Admits to a Threat It Helped Create, and Can’t Stop https://247wallst.com/investing/2026/05/30/spacex-quietly-admits-to-a-threat-it-helped-create-and-cant-stop/

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                  Mastodon (mastodon.social)

                  "Buried deep in SpaceX’s freshly filed IPO paperwork..."

                  "The pre-IPO disclosures lay it out cleanly. SpaceX warns that “the continued proliferation of satellite constellations in Low-Earth Orbit, as well as the risk of collisions with space debris or other spacecraft, could limit or impair our launch flexibility and satellite deployment.”

                  more...

                  1/

                  #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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                  @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets

                  Really, so there's a 'risk' Muskovite space junk will fall on our heads? No Way! Impossible!

                  "Oh, look, pretty Meteorites!"

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                  • phil_stevens@mastodon.nzP phil_stevens@mastodon.nz

                    @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets So the excitement will be finding out what gets vapourised faster: the Starlink constellation, or the retirement savings of millions of Americans.

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                    @phil_stevens @mastodonmigration OUCH.

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                      @grumble209 @mastodonmigration @W6KME I've thought about trying to make simulations of what the night sky would look like after Kessler syndrome really gets going, but it's just too depressing.

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                      • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                        @mastodonmigration
                        Kessler would like to have a chat with Elmo about his syndrome.
                        @sundogplanets

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                        @alterelefant @mastodonmigration Dr. Kessler is actually still publishing (at least, as of a year ago) https://conference.sdo.esoc.esa.int/proceedings/sdc9/paper/305/SDC9-paper305.pdf

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                        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                          @sundogplanets

                          And the kicker...

                          "A worst-case scenario is flagged: a strike that could “trigger a cascading collision event that renders our licensed orbits, and potentially other orbits, unusable for an extended period."

                          SpaceX S1: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm

                          3/

                          #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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                          @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets
                          Doing things by the book. Now when launches become impossible due to Kessler Syndrome, and people try to sue them, the lawyers will just day "look, we told you about that part up front. That was the risk you gambled on".

                          Smart lawyers.

                          And investors are going to throw a ton of money at them anyway. Where as if they didn't mention this, they could be in a lot of trouble with the FTC.

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            @grumble209 @mastodonmigration @W6KME I've thought about trying to make simulations of what the night sky would look like after Kessler syndrome really gets going, but it's just too depressing.

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                            @sundogplanets @grumble209 @mastodonmigration @W6KME
                            .... I hope you will do it anyway.

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