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Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit?

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

    Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

    SpaceX is truly awful.

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    @sundogplanets but they increased the price for aviation customers from $65/month to $250 and decreased the allowance to 20GB. That’s over 3.5x shareholder value! And if you want to go >300MPH, it’s $1,000. That’s >15x! Line go up means they should be allowed to dump as much metal into the atmosphere, no matter what unknown consequences might occur.

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

      Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

      SpaceX is truly awful.

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      @sundogplanets

      What percentage of those articles were generated by "AI"? 50%? 80?

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

        Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

        SpaceX is truly awful.

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        @sundogplanets
        Truly awful. And also on track to pull off a nice heist of everyone's retirement savings. Accelerated entry into the indexes, weighted at 5x actual float. Which means every passive index fund that doesn't exclude mega-caps will be forced to buy a ton of that garbage...

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        Michael Burry Flags 'Structural Manipulation' Risk In Nasdaq Rules Ahead Of Potential SpaceX Listing

        Michael Burry slams Nasdaq's proposed rule changes that could fast-track SpaceX into the Nasdaq-100 just 15 days after its IPO, warning of forced passive buying and insider wealth transfer at the expense of retail investors.

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        apologies for the YouTube link... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rS3fTbC7TE

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

          Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

          SpaceX is truly awful.

          becovich@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          @sundogplanets
          I always ask myself: Why so many?

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

            Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

            SpaceX is truly awful.

            luna@mastodon.worldL This user is from outside of this forum
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            @sundogplanets It's not even that fast of service.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

              Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

              SpaceX is truly awful.

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              @sundogplanets Apparently this is why the Ozone hole is back. And the buggers are only just getting started.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

                Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

                SpaceX is truly awful.

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                @sundogplanets I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately it’s really sad

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

                  Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

                  SpaceX is truly awful.

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                  @sundogplanets donald is the son of perdition donald is the anti-christ the beast... elon is the devil incarnate, lucifer walks among Humanity. maga is a mark of the beast. Wake Up Humanity... WAKE UP!!!

                  elon is the devil incarnate, he Is lucifer.

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

                    Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

                    SpaceX is truly awful.

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                    @sundogplanets SpaceX - or rather #Starlink - is my lifeline, and the lifeline of many thousands of others living in a rural location with no proper broadband service. #Spacex may be "awful" but it has improved my quality of life immeasurably.

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                    • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

                      @sundogplanets SpaceX - or rather #Starlink - is my lifeline, and the lifeline of many thousands of others living in a rural location with no proper broadband service. #Spacex may be "awful" but it has improved my quality of life immeasurably.

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                      @drewtowler Absolutely understand that. SpaceX could provide internet access without destroying the night sky and the atmosphere if they would focus on providing service with fewer satellites that have longer operating lifetimes. That is the engineering challenge they need to rise to.

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                      • becovich@mastodon.socialB becovich@mastodon.social

                        @sundogplanets
                        I always ask myself: Why so many?

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                        @Becovich That is a question no one has ever made SpaceX answer.

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                        • ve2uwy@mastodon.radioV ve2uwy@mastodon.radio

                          @sundogplanets

                          What percentage of those articles were generated by "AI"? 50%? 80?

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                          @VE2UWY 😭

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                          • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

                            @sundogplanets SpaceX - or rather #Starlink - is my lifeline, and the lifeline of many thousands of others living in a rural location with no proper broadband service. #Spacex may be "awful" but it has improved my quality of life immeasurably.

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                            @drewtowler can you not instead get ViaSat or HughesNet?

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

                              Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

                              SpaceX is truly awful.

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                              I remember those passing scenes in Wall-E with Earth literally covered in space trash. Little me found the surface wasteland plausible but space junk—couldn't be that bad, right?

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

                                Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

                                SpaceX is truly awful.

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                                Also, those satellites are what allows Putin to help Iran target us.
                                Not an environmental problem, but worth mentioning.

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                                • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

                                  @sundogplanets SpaceX - or rather #Starlink - is my lifeline, and the lifeline of many thousands of others living in a rural location with no proper broadband service. #Spacex may be "awful" but it has improved my quality of life immeasurably.

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                                  @drewtowler

                                  As @sundogplanets wrote: Satellite internet works fine with far fewer satellites in higher orbits.

                                  Or more places could have fiber run out to local wireless towers.

                                  Instead of giving still more money to Elon Musk's scam.

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                                  • becovich@mastodon.socialB becovich@mastodon.social

                                    @sundogplanets
                                    I always ask myself: Why so many?

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                                    @Becovich

                                    Starlink is designed to try to sell slightly-lower-latency links at a steep premium.

                                    To do that, the Starlinks need to fly low.

                                    To fly low and provide continuous coverage, SpaceX needs a lot of them.

                                    Versus Iridium managing with 76 active satellites.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

                                      Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

                                      SpaceX is truly awful.

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                                      @sundogplanets I am worried that at some point it could create a Kessler Effect

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                                      Kessler syndrome - Wikipedia

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        Any journalists want to write an article about all the environmental costs of the more than 10,000 Starlinks that are now in orbit? All I'm seeing are breathless articles mindlessly worshiping That Awful Billionaire for crossing the 10,000 satellite mark.

                                        Every single one of those will come down in an uncontrolled reentry. That's a lot of metal in the atmosphere, and a lot of dice-rolling to see if any more pieces will make it to the ground.

                                        SpaceX is truly awful.

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                                        @sundogplanets

                                        I assume you saw the article that said the US government had listened to the richest man on earth when he said cleaning up his space junk (in this case, rocket stages abandoned in decaying orbits) was too expensive and he couldn't afford it, and now the proposed regulations to make billionaires clean up after themselves has gone back to the drawing board?

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          @drewtowler Absolutely understand that. SpaceX could provide internet access without destroying the night sky and the atmosphere if they would focus on providing service with fewer satellites that have longer operating lifetimes. That is the engineering challenge they need to rise to.

                                          drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @sundogplanets Not going to argue - but that's out of my control.

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