The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.
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@Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.
@m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux
quite often banking app requires microg or android compatibility layer. basically android somehow.sailfishos makes more sense without any android vomit. lack of native apps makes sailfishos unappealing.
consider ungoogled android for critical apps, and leave phone home without sim card. primary separate device for main purposes.
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@Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux Since you brought up the signature model, Google Play requires devs keep the signing keys with them, F-Droid just offers it as an option. F-Droid offers using only the upstream signature if the app is reproducible. https://f-droid.org/docs/Reproducible_Builds/#publishing-apks-with-the-upstream-developers-signature
Also, how the APK signing keys are managed has nothing to do with Android Developer Verification or Keep Android Open.
@eighthave @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux all of this is orthogonal to the issue, it was just speculation about a tangential topic.
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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.
If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.
https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.
We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.
Thank you for your support!
@fdroidorg @marcprux I've really appreciated F-Droid lately. I'm setting up a new Lenovo Tab3 running 5.0.1 - 99% of my apps have been sideloaded APKs. Google doesn't support it, so no updates but they don't keep trying to "improve" my experience either.
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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.
If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.
https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.
We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.
Thank you for your support!
> We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.
The new release of Neo Store (published today) already has it. And our website has it as well: https://izzyondroid.org/
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@liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux apparently they have already backed down and will people bypass it so i dont even understand what the issue is lol
@fisk @liquidparasyte Maybe we were lost in translation? Google did not back down, they appear to double down and continue on track... The "advanced flow" was never shown to anyone, also even if that will exist it will not be by September 2026 but at a later unannounced date.
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Thank you for the information and links at https://keepandroidopen.org/
Got a relatively generic and neutral but friendly response.
I'm still unsure whether this contributes a drop to filling the ocean...
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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.
If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.
https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.
We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.
Thank you for your support!
@fdroidorg something for the @EUCommission. I'd be surprised if this did not violate the DSA/DMA. Can we maybe get a _quick_ solution, not some hardly sufficient fines which will only get paid after years in the courts while the harm continues?
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Thank you for the information and links at https://keepandroidopen.org/
Got a relatively generic and neutral but friendly response.
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@simx72 Custom Android distros can and do choose to free their users from such shackles.
@fdroidorg Thank you!
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@Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux
I read some of those threads linked from the discuss link. This whole situation is exhausting. Multiple ways to get screwed over on multiple fronts. The layman has no chance to understand any of this.
And then, of course, you'll get a pithy "use ubuntu" reply to these threads, which is fine if you have one of the 12 old phones supported by it.
I don't know what the solution is, but if the answer is "get the apk from github and ensure you trust the dev" then essentially everyone is screwed.
@tehstu @Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux
Agree. To all those who recommends Shizuku/Dhizuku/ADB/Root/GOS/custom-roms/linux-phones, as @techlore said in https://youtu.be/hfzf0t8ZCK4?t=6115 it's not about such custom/alternative solutions.
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@fdroidorg @murena @gael What will this mean for Murena users?
@kallekn @fdroidorg @murena time to fork Android?
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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.
If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.
https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.
We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.
Thank you for your support!
@fdroidorg @marcprux Hi Hello what it means : « Clippy would never block your application freedom and claim it's to protect you from malware. » at the end of the petition ?
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@PVTejas No one saw that flow, so until then, all their posts are PR media control.
@fdroidorg No one *wanted* to see what Google was up to. I.e. autoredirects in G Maps, Youtube playback failures were ramped up to unusability. This is no surprise.
Who actually didn‘t see that was already living inside G-defined boundaries, i.E. having a G account, using Youtube via G-controlled browser, using Maps via G app, …
Remains a mystery to me why people use a OS/browser made by the major advertising predator, known mainly for working against humans.
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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.
If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.
https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.
We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.
Thank you for your support!
Here's the direct link to the petition: https://www.change.org/p/stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage
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@fdroidorg@floss.social I live in China. We don't have representatives to contact. Even Google doesn't provide service to users here directly. Please do NOT show the useless header to users from China. I love F-Droid and FOSS in general but the header would be useless and annoying.
@oldherl The Internet delivered, info for Chinese users too: https://keepandroidopen.org
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@fdroidorg @marcprux Hi Hello what it means : « Clippy would never block your application freedom and claim it's to protect you from malware. » at the end of the petition ?
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@fdroidorg@floss.social I live in China. We don't have representatives to contact. Even Google doesn't provide service to users here directly. Please do NOT show the useless header to users from China. I love F-Droid and FOSS in general but the header would be useless and annoying.
@oldherl @fdroidorg thanks to a contributor, there is now information for China: https://github.com/keepandroidopen/keepandroidopen.github.io/pull/122
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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.
If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.
https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.
We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.
Thank you for your support!
@fdroidorg @marcprux Thanks for sharing the guidance. I've written to UK and EU Govs with my arguments.
My device is a bit old to install a libre OS alternative without complicated steps. I have yet managed to remove Google services with ADB, and I strongly rely on Aurora and F-Droid to install apps I need. This act would be a hard hit. -
The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.
If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.
https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.
We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.
Thank you for your support!
@fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social
Es wird Zeit für ein offenes europäisches Handy-Betriebssystem, weg von Android, weg von iOS. -
The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.
If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.
https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.
We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.
Thank you for your support!
@fdroidorg @marcprux is there a privacy friendly and trustworthy petition online, somewhere?
