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  3. The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net

    Having to pay a company and send your government id to that company, who will absolutely turn that data over to the government, is not an acceptable way to develop software.

    Especially as that government is actively targeting dissenters and anyone who opposes them.

    Especially as that company is making plans to go into the PC space, creating computers more locked down than Windows.

    Especially as that company already has an 'anti-virus' activated on every Android licensed device by default that flags and prevents these malicious apps.

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    @liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux Most open-source apps are already published to Google Play. I use a degoogled phone and this will not affect me in any way. It will absolutely affect people who will have to burn through disposable identities to develop malware.
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    • fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog
      @liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux Most open-source apps are already published to Google Play. I use a degoogled phone and this will not affect me in any way. It will absolutely affect people who will have to burn through disposable identities to develop malware.
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      It will also affect developers who choose to or have to stay anonymous to protect themselves from bad actors like rogue governments, and make it harder to develop software that authorities do not want made, such as emulation software, or adblocking tools and clients, or law enforcement raid watches.

      Your personal exclusion from these restrictions does not solve the problem for developers, nor the majority of people who use Android who can't, don't know how to, or afford a degoogled device.

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      • liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net

        It will also affect developers who choose to or have to stay anonymous to protect themselves from bad actors like rogue governments, and make it harder to develop software that authorities do not want made, such as emulation software, or adblocking tools and clients, or law enforcement raid watches.

        Your personal exclusion from these restrictions does not solve the problem for developers, nor the majority of people who use Android who can't, don't know how to, or afford a degoogled device.

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        And for the spyware and malware that has the widest impact: they will be unaffected, because they publish straight on the Play Store themselves.

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        • liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net

          It will also affect developers who choose to or have to stay anonymous to protect themselves from bad actors like rogue governments, and make it harder to develop software that authorities do not want made, such as emulation software, or adblocking tools and clients, or law enforcement raid watches.

          Your personal exclusion from these restrictions does not solve the problem for developers, nor the majority of people who use Android who can't, don't know how to, or afford a degoogled device.

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          @liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux ???
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          • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

            Thank you for your support!

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            @fdroidorg @marcprux
            This is the reason why i removed some of my apps from Play Store and i only develop with frameworks that allow creating apps that work with linux-first phones like Pinephone

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              @liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux apparently they have already backed down and will people bypass it so i dont even understand what the issue is lol
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              • D dei@is.nota.live

                @techlore please make a video about it!

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                @dei coming!

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                • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                  Thank you for your support!

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                  @fdroidorg @marcprux
                  I believe it's essential to defend our freedom and privacy on Android. It's concerning to see how options for users are being restricted. We all deserve control over our devices and protection of our data. Supporting initiatives like this is an important step toward a more open future.

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                  • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                    Thank you for your support!

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                    #129

                    @fdroidorg
                    @marcprux

                    Thank you for the information and links at https://keepandroidopen.org/

                    Got a relatively generic and neutral but friendly response.
                    I'm still unsure whether this contributes a drop to filling the ocean... 🤔

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                    • m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyzM m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyz

                      @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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                      @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux
                      quite often banking app requires microg or android compatibility layer. basically android somehow.

                      sailfishos makes more sense without any android vomit. lack of native apps makes sailfishos unappealing.

                      consider ungoogled android for critical apps, and leave phone home without sim card. primary separate device for main purposes.

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                      • eighthave@social.librem.oneE eighthave@social.librem.one

                        @Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux Since you brought up the signature model, Google Play requires devs keep the signing keys with them, F-Droid just offers it as an option. F-Droid offers using only the upstream signature if the app is reproducible. https://f-droid.org/docs/Reproducible_Builds/#publishing-apks-with-the-upstream-developers-signature

                        Also, how the APK signing keys are managed has nothing to do with Android Developer Verification or Keep Android Open.

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                        @eighthave @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux all of this is orthogonal to the issue, it was just speculation about a tangential topic.

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                        • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                          Thank you for your support!

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                          @fdroidorg @marcprux I've really appreciated F-Droid lately. I'm setting up a new Lenovo Tab3 running 5.0.1 - 99% of my apps have been sideloaded APKs. Google doesn't support it, so no updates but they don't keep trying to "improve" my experience either.

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                          • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            Thank you for your support!

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                            @fdroidorg @marcprux

                            > We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            The new release of Neo Store (published today) already has it. And our website has it as well: https://izzyondroid.org/

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                            • fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog
                              @liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux apparently they have already backed down and will people bypass it so i dont even understand what the issue is lol
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                              @fisk @liquidparasyte Maybe we were lost in translation? Google did not back down, they appear to double down and continue on track... The "advanced flow" was never shown to anyone, also even if that will exist it will not be by September 2026 but at a later unannounced date.

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                              • paet@social.tchncs.deP paet@social.tchncs.de

                                @fdroidorg
                                @marcprux

                                Thank you for the information and links at https://keepandroidopen.org/

                                Got a relatively generic and neutral but friendly response.
                                I'm still unsure whether this contributes a drop to filling the ocean... 🤔

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                                @paet https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086986461037797

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                                • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                  Thank you for your support!

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                                  @fdroidorg something for the @EUCommission. I'd be surprised if this did not violate the DSA/DMA. Can we maybe get a _quick_ solution, not some hardly sufficient fines which will only get paid after years in the courts while the harm continues?

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                                  • paet@social.tchncs.deP paet@social.tchncs.de

                                    @fdroidorg
                                    @marcprux

                                    Thank you for the information and links at https://keepandroidopen.org/

                                    Got a relatively generic and neutral but friendly response.
                                    I'm still unsure whether this contributes a drop to filling the ocean... 🤔

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                                    @paet

                                    realSatirePur wrote:

                                    gatekeepers

                                    @fdroidorg @marcprux

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