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My mom used to do environmental activism.

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  • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

    My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

    Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

    And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

    Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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    @smutmag Had a small scale version of this recently. I told someone I canceled my Apple iCloud and Apple Card because of Apple's political donations, and the person I was talking to harangued me that I haven't boycotted the other 30 companies that did something similar.

    Apple was the company I had a relationship with, and I ended it. I'm sorry that I can't perfectly protest everything.

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    • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

      @smutmag Why does the left shoot itself compulsively?

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      @Flowermob

      In the case of my mother, it boiled down to two things: She had the audacity to get things done without their help, and she wasn't even wearing the "uniform." So they had to belittle her accomplishments and make her feel like a poser. The club wasn't REALLY about environmental justice. It was about having a group to hate on "pretty, vapid" people. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people are more motivated by social standing in a group than by altruistic acts.

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      • woltiv@mastodon.socialW woltiv@mastodon.social

        @smutmag Had a small scale version of this recently. I told someone I canceled my Apple iCloud and Apple Card because of Apple's political donations, and the person I was talking to harangued me that I haven't boycotted the other 30 companies that did something similar.

        Apple was the company I had a relationship with, and I ended it. I'm sorry that I can't perfectly protest everything.

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        @woltiv @smutmag That's a logical fallacy called "whataboutism" and I call people out on it all the time (sorry about that happening to you).

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        • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

          My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

          Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

          And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

          Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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          @smutmag I'm so sorry she was subjected to that - and what an amazing person to have achieved all that she did.

          This kind of narrow-minded and exclusionary attitude is, sadly, I think typical for so many activist and advocacy movements.

          But doing the work is what matters - and for that, from here in Ireland, I am grateful to your mother. ❤️

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          • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

            My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

            Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

            And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

            Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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            @smutmag That's awful, having to put up with that.

            Thank you for sharing your mom's story, and I hope it reaches the people who need to hear this the most.

            Wishing your mom all the best!

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            • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

              My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

              Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

              And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

              Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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              @smutmag

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              • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                @miki_lou She doesn't consume much and doesn't have a car. But she stopped doing organized things because it was required that she change her personality and aesthetic. I think your message should be sent to people who would reject help because they look down on women who wear lipstick. And she still did more in her lifetime than any of them, or any current environmental activist I know.

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                @smutmag @miki_lou

                There are people you can reach better with lipstick than without

                And what breaks my heart is thinking your mom probably dressed up for the barbecue. Best nails and lipstick!

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                • psh@infosec.exchangeP psh@infosec.exchange

                  @smutmag

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                  @psh This was the 90's and it was a start, and it wasn't just plastic recycling. At the very least, recycling advocacy was the first time people even thought about where their garbage was going.

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                  • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

                    @smutmag Why does the left shoot itself compulsively?

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                    @Flowermob

                    Almost all human groups do this. It is as soon as the purists gain control in any way, then they play the "no True Scotsman" game until only one person is left standing.

                    @smutmag

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                    • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                      @Flowermob

                      In the case of my mother, it boiled down to two things: She had the audacity to get things done without their help, and she wasn't even wearing the "uniform." So they had to belittle her accomplishments and make her feel like a poser. The club wasn't REALLY about environmental justice. It was about having a group to hate on "pretty, vapid" people. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people are more motivated by social standing in a group than by altruistic acts.

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                      @smutmag

                      You mother was a good example of the power of marginal gains, and how all positive improvement ever happens.

                      @Flowermob

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                      • writedragon@mastodon.socialW writedragon@mastodon.social

                        @woltiv @smutmag That's a logical fallacy called "whataboutism" and I call people out on it all the time (sorry about that happening to you).

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                        @WriteDragon @woltiv @smutmag I see this on Mastodon from time to time where people will be discussing a movement and some reply-guy will come in and chastise them because their cause is the most important thing in the world.

                        They then double down when replied to with the perfectly logical statement that more than one cause can be supported at the same time.

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                        • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                          @psh This was the 90's and it was a start, and it wasn't just plastic recycling. At the very least, recycling advocacy was the first time people even thought about where their garbage was going.

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                          @smutmag Oh absolutely, sorry wasn't meaning to be a negative response - she sounds like she was an amazing advocate; especially during that time frame. I've talked with many environmental advocates who were fighting at that time for estuary health, bird sanctuary conservation, river conservation, no-spray zones, pesticide reduction, etc etc. It's dumbfounding just how idiotic our society as a whole was and still is to environmental wastes. That can definitely cause people to spiral into some sort of perfectionism...which is basically impossible to achieve today. You'll see much infighting like your mom experienced. And more often than not, it leads many of us who over think to an all consuming nihilism. Community shouldn't be that judgemental.

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                          • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                            My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

                            Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

                            And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

                            Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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                            @smutmag Much respect for your mom. Purity tests like the ones she faced are the kiss of death to so many movements.
                            Brava! From another lipstick-wearing activist.
                            💙

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                            • miki_lou@mastodon.socialM miki_lou@mastodon.social

                              @smutmag Committed activists never stop, they just change strategies when barriers or people get in the way. Hope your mom is still standing up for Mother Earth. She needs all of our help these days.

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                              @miki_lou @smutmag

                              Committed activists welcome as many people as possible into their movement.

                              Committed activists don't get hung up on unimportant stuff, and don't alienate potential allies.

                              Committed activists pay attention to the community they are creating.

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                                @smutmag

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                                @smutmag @psh ah but you also get politicians with puritan fervor to no avail

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                                • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                                  My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

                                  Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

                                  And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

                                  Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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                                  @smutmag legend

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                                  • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                                    My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

                                    Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

                                    And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

                                    Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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                                    @smutmag

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                                    • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                                      My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

                                      Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

                                      And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

                                      Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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                                      @smutmag Extremist people can be dangerous. In every group, there are always some who go too far to the other extreme. And ironically, the most harmful people for any group are often those who are the most intense and fanatical.

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                                      • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                                        @miki_lou @smutmag

                                        Committed activists welcome as many people as possible into their movement.

                                        Committed activists don't get hung up on unimportant stuff, and don't alienate potential allies.

                                        Committed activists pay attention to the community they are creating.

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                                        @jztusk @smutmag 💯

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                                        • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                                          My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

                                          Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

                                          And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

                                          Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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                                          @smutmag Wow, that's ossome. I hope she clapped back at them with her head held high as she left, about the environmental footprint of a thing such as a barbecue (and what, pray tell, were they barbecuing? AFAF).

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