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  • fwtl@mastodon.socialF fwtl@mastodon.social

    @smallcircles everything you said can still be achieved with a customisable algo or litterally two tabs in the app : one with the chronological algorithm (still an algo btw) and one with the customized feed with your interests.

    Without the second one the app is dead unless you build your feed yourself, that's really bad and explains why people got into bluesky instead of mastodon.
    Also if you want to have mass appeal you don't expect people to have a boring app and understand the "new paradigm"

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    @fwtl @smallcircles there’s a third path to avoid empty timelines vs ‘build your own’ and ‘algorithm’ - packs, which is what the Mastodon team are focussing on .. https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/10/our-ideas-about-packs/.

    Because I saw your post and thought ‘oh but my timeline isn’t quiet’.. but rather than you having to find those 100s of accounts to follow to make it interesting, a pack supports different lists of accounts based on different interests. If they get it right (as they’ve got quotes right imho) then it could be really nice, and still no algo.

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    • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

      Complete this sentence:

      "I experience #fediverse as a .."

      #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #73

      @smallcircles

      For me, it is bustling! Loads of interesting people, with lots of clever, funny, curious etc. things to say.

      Best of all, the lack of content promotion / selection algorithms, and instead a simple, chronological, algorithm coupled with filters, means I mainly see stuff of interest to me.

      Genuinely, the best social media experience that I've had in a long, long time!

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      • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

        @fwtl yes, I'm quite positively surprised at all the good social experiences people have.

        > An algo is a tool that can be used for good and the lack of one is really big problem for normies

        I don't think that is necessarily the case, more so than that we are dealing with different social networking paradigms. And when people do not realize that, their expectations are off. I call this paradigm #PersonalSocialNetworking..

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        Hopping from #twitter to #mastodon is not just switching to another microblogging platform, that happens to be decentralized. The lack of algorithm gives an opportunity as well as a responsibility in order to get the most out of the fediverse: you are in control and should curate your own feed. By choosing who you follow, you shape your own village, and over time you may nurture it into a bustling city you are part of.

        Algo's may help, but it is more Starter packs and app websites that can do a better introduction to fediverse social media.

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        #74

        @smallcircles @fwtl

        > I'm quite positively surprised at all the good social experiences people have.

        Really?! This surprises me, but then perhaps I am biased precisely because I am one of those people.

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        • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

          Complete this sentence:

          "I experience #fediverse as a .."

          #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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          #75

          @smallcircles a quaint town

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          • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

            Complete this sentence:

            "I experience #fediverse as a .."

            #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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            #76

            @smallcircles cozy village when I interact with my server or closer servers, more or less a small group of people, bustling city when I explore all the rest

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            • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

              Complete this sentence:

              "I experience #fediverse as a .."

              #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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              #77

              @smallcircles "I experience the Fediverse as the original promise of the internet" : genuine human connections without the interference of corporate interests (or algorithmic manipulation)

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              • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                Complete this sentence:

                "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                #78

                @smallcircles
                city, but quiet weekend city time

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                • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                  Complete this sentence:

                  "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                  #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                  #79

                  @smallcircles A big village with highly motivated and sometimes obsessive communities with specialist interests but plenty of shared fun.

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    @smallcircles @fwtl

                    > I'm quite positively surprised at all the good social experiences people have.

                    Really?! This surprises me, but then perhaps I am biased precisely because I am one of those people.

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                    #80

                    @neil @fwtl

                    Don't get me wrong. I am one of those people too. My social experience is a cozy village, and I love to be on the microblogs, roam the timelines.

                    But there is also an ugly underbelly to our onlline cultures that is not properly acknowledged and discussed, let alone deep reflection on how to bring improvements. The fediverse is first of all a technosphere. Tech is created, rolled out, and culture must adapt accordingly. Externalities and unwanted side-effects are to be dealt with later, which is not easy in an app-centric fediverse where individual devs are in the lead of making feature decisions.

                    As an aside see this toot: https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116109447243110037

                    Just below the warm and fluffy surface of the cozy fedi culture there are parasocial tendencies and behavioral anti-patterns that make fedi a de-facto unsafe environment. If you don't know the mine fields and eggshells to walk on in certain areas, you may face harsh unexpected consequences, fedidrama.

                    We can do much better.

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                    • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                      Complete this sentence:

                      "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                      #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                      #81

                      @smallcircles it's a manageable distraction

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        @smallcircles "I experience the Fediverse as the original promise of the internet" : genuine human connections without the interference of corporate interests (or algorithmic manipulation)

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                        #82

                        @_elena I totally agree with you.

                        Though I perceive existential threats that I have been posting heavily about the last 2 weeks. These exist for many years and are well-known, but are getting pretty urgent now. They hold risks we have not dealt with properly. Allow me to cross-ref to what I just posted in reply to @neil ..

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                        @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk @fwtl@mastodon.social Don't get me wrong. I am one of those people too. My social experience is a cozy village, and I love to be on the microblogs, roam the timelines. But there is also an ugly underbelly to our onlline cultures that is not properly acknowledged and discussed, let alone deep reflection on how to bring improvements. The fediverse is first of all a technosphere. Tech is created, rolled out, and culture must adapt accordingly. Externalities and unwanted side-effects are to be dealt with later, which is not easy in an app-centric fediverse where individual devs are in the lead of making feature decisions. As an aside see this toot: https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116109447243110037 Just below the warm and fluffy surface of the cozy fedi culture there are parasocial tendencies and behavioral anti-patterns that make fedi a de-facto unsafe environment. If you don't know the mine fields and eggshells to walk on in certain areas, you may face harsh unexpected consequences, fedidrama. We can do much better.

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                        The current fediverse is a marvel. What will the future fediverse be? That is the question.

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                        • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                          Complete this sentence:

                          "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                          #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                          @smallcircles Growing town in a country that could do with better public transport options (i.e. more natural links between the different applications).

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                          • brad@1040ste.netB brad@1040ste.net

                            @smallcircles Growing town in a country that could do with better public transport options (i.e. more natural links between the different applications).

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                            #84

                            @brad yes, I agree. In particular the natural and organic aspect. Revolution by evolution. Thank you.

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                            • scottrochester@mastodon.socialS scottrochester@mastodon.social

                              @smallcircles it's a manageable distraction

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                              #85

                              @scottrochester that made me laugh. Thanks. 😃

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                              • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                                @RolloTreadway ah, nice. I did not know that song, ha ha.

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                                @smallcircles @RolloTreadway
                                https://lankum.bandcamp.com/album/ghost-town

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                                • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                                  Complete this sentence:

                                  "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                                  #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                                  @smallcircles I had to think for a moment but I think I'd call it a space station. A place kinda out if this world ( as it's in direct violation of the corporate model of profit above all else). Where all kinds of fabulous aliens can exchange tips, ideas and convers on many different subjects in a mostly calm and civil manner while they wait to refuel 😉

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                                  • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                                    Complete this sentence:

                                    "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                                    #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                                    @smallcircles people obsessed with US politics when they don't even live there. That's how I experience it.

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                                    • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                                      Complete this sentence:

                                      "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                                      #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                                      #89

                                      @smallcircles
                                      Cozy Arkham Asylum.

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                                      • seufz@troet.cafeS seufz@troet.cafe

                                        @smallcircles @RolloTreadway
                                        https://lankum.bandcamp.com/album/ghost-town

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                                        @seufz @RolloTreadway

                                        Nice. They certainly nailed the atmosphere. Listening now.

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                                        • maikel@vmst.ioM maikel@vmst.io

                                          @smallcircles people obsessed with US politics when they don't even live there. That's how I experience it.

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                                          #91

                                          @maikel I think you can't blame them with US being a global superpower and all, and how the world order is radically changed by all this. Difficult times, and it seeps very broadly in all timelines. I think in other social media it will be no different.

                                          If you'd curate your feed to only include people who deliberately shun the political debate, might bring good improvement I think.

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