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Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out?

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  • quinn9282@mas.toQ quinn9282@mas.to

    @jpoesen If you're referring to in-person pursuits, adding a location or region where you live might be helpful if you're wanting more locally tailored answers.

    jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Quinn9282 Fair point! I guess I'm mostly looking online for now, but otherwise I'm in the greater Malaga city area...

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    • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

      Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

      Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

      Much obliged.

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      @jpoesen Craft breweries, garages, maker spaces, libraries, metal recyclers, used computer shops, diners, campsites, trails...

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      • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

        @jpoesen what part of Spanish countryside are you in? We're thinking of moving to Galicia to explore similar pursuits.

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        @gerrymcgovern @jpoesen
        Not in Galicia, but also in the North of Spain is Bioketa rural coliving project. You can check my profile if you are interested.

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        • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

          Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

          Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

          Much obliged.

          richardoc@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jpoesen I'd love to know too in London UK

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          • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

            @jpoesen what part of Spanish countryside are you in? We're thinking of moving to Galicia to explore similar pursuits.

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            @gerrymcgovern @jpoesen you can talk with @lacaiguda about the Galicia thingy.

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            • efialto@mastodon.onlineE efialto@mastodon.online

              @gerrymcgovern @jpoesen you can talk with @lacaiguda about the Galicia thingy.

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              @efialto
              Thanks!
              @jpoesen @lacaiguda

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              • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

                Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

                Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

                Much obliged.

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                @jpoesen this is an awesome and much needed thing. Thank you for throwing this out there!!

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                • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

                  Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

                  Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

                  Much obliged.

                  nenon@masto.euroburners.euN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jpoesen
                  Which city / area are you looking at?

                  @liaizon @binbash i feel like you might know more about this.

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                  • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

                    Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

                    Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

                    Much obliged.

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                    @jpoesen hi

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                    • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

                      Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

                      Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

                      Much obliged.

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                      @jpoesen
                      Permaculture is more concerned with ethics than low tech (The ethics of earth care, people care and fair share).

                      Practitioners tend to focus on appropriate technology. Solar panels have a negative environmental impact to manufacture, but are miles better than the alternatives. Sodium ion batteries are a better technology than lithium based chemistries, etc.

                      There is a an emphasis on natural building, but doesn't forbid things like foam glass insulation (despite embodied carbon).

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                      • robloblaw@mastodon.socialR robloblaw@mastodon.social

                        @jpoesen
                        Permaculture is more concerned with ethics than low tech (The ethics of earth care, people care and fair share).

                        Practitioners tend to focus on appropriate technology. Solar panels have a negative environmental impact to manufacture, but are miles better than the alternatives. Sodium ion batteries are a better technology than lithium based chemistries, etc.

                        There is a an emphasis on natural building, but doesn't forbid things like foam glass insulation (despite embodied carbon).

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                        @jpoesen
                        Also:
                        https://permacultureglobal.org/

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                        Find what brings us all together here in the Community Forum - there are matches to be made with like-minded permaculture people, art and music to share, and communities to build!

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                        (permies.com)

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                        • regendans@todon.euR regendans@todon.eu

                          @jpoesen Apart from checking Mastodon you might have a look at the Lemmy software based https://slrpnk.net/communities

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                          @regendans Thank you for sharing that, exactly what I was looking for 😊 @jpoesen

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                          • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

                            Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

                            Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

                            Much obliged.

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                            @jpoesen #BikeTooter will get you a variety of bikes, there is also an asynchronous #BikeNite on Fridays where people submit questions and answer them in the comments, often with discussions continuing all weekend

                            also for funsies: #CarryShitOlympics

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                            • nenon@masto.euroburners.euN nenon@masto.euroburners.eu

                              @jpoesen
                              Which city / area are you looking at?

                              @liaizon @binbash i feel like you might know more about this.

                              jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @nenon @liaizon @binbash Mostly online, but physically: Andalucia / Malaga area.

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                              • skysong@floss.socialS skysong@floss.social

                                @707Kat @jpoesen I would love to volunteer to help people in this way.

                                The problem is a lack of demand. I don't hear about a lot of people who aren't already technically savvy about this stuff who are interested in moving away from big tech. Usually the reaction I see is "why would I care about that?"

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                                @skysong @707Kat @jpoesen
                                For me it is happening slowly. I talk about this topic regularly in my circles, but it took a while for even the politically more concious people to take a step. Now some of them are slowly changing services and networks - two or three years after talking about it the first time.
                                Sometimes change takes a while 🙂

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                                • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

                                  @nenon @liaizon @binbash Mostly online, but physically: Andalucia / Malaga area.

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                                  @jpoesen @nenon @liaizon I try to be more active in offline communities rather than posting about it. So... Go to a repaircafé (if there is none, be the founder of one), build fancy bikes and post about them, find a local critical mass. If we're talking about rural Spain it is possible that there's not a high density of diy nerds in your area. Also I'd like to know more about your choice of settling down on a farm.

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                                  • w8emv@a2mi.socialW w8emv@a2mi.social

                                    @jpoesen

                                    You can find bicycle people weekly on #bikenite (question and answer session) and also on #biketooter

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                                    @w8emv @jpoesen Do steel frames make for a better ground plane? 😉

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                                    • lopta@mastodon.socialL lopta@mastodon.social

                                      @w8emv @jpoesen Do steel frames make for a better ground plane? 😉

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                                      @lopta @jpoesen

                                      I've packed up a roll-up J-pole antenna in the past, stuck it into a saddle bag, then unrolled it and hung it from a hook on a nearby tree when operating. No ground plane needed. At least plausibly this works too if you have a suitable flagpole mount (fiberglass mast with a hook at the top).

                                      Or build the J-pole right into the flagpole, https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-DX/73-magazine/73-magazine-1982/73-magazine-09-september-1982.pdf has a design from Jim #W5AOX in 73 magazine from 1982.

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