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Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out?

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  • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

    @jpoesen what part of Spanish countryside are you in? We're thinking of moving to Galicia to explore similar pursuits.

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    @gerrymcgovern @jpoesen
    Not in Galicia, but also in the North of Spain is Bioketa rural coliving project. You can check my profile if you are interested.

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    • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

      Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

      Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

      Much obliged.

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      @jpoesen I'd love to know too in London UK

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      • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

        @jpoesen what part of Spanish countryside are you in? We're thinking of moving to Galicia to explore similar pursuits.

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        @gerrymcgovern @jpoesen you can talk with @lacaiguda about the Galicia thingy.

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        • efialto@mastodon.onlineE efialto@mastodon.online

          @gerrymcgovern @jpoesen you can talk with @lacaiguda about the Galicia thingy.

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          @efialto
          Thanks!
          @jpoesen @lacaiguda

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          • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

            Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

            Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

            Much obliged.

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            @jpoesen this is an awesome and much needed thing. Thank you for throwing this out there!!

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            • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

              Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

              Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

              Much obliged.

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              @jpoesen
              Which city / area are you looking at?

              @liaizon @binbash i feel like you might know more about this.

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              • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

                Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

                Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

                Much obliged.

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                @jpoesen hi

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                • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

                  Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

                  Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

                  Much obliged.

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                  @jpoesen
                  Permaculture is more concerned with ethics than low tech (The ethics of earth care, people care and fair share).

                  Practitioners tend to focus on appropriate technology. Solar panels have a negative environmental impact to manufacture, but are miles better than the alternatives. Sodium ion batteries are a better technology than lithium based chemistries, etc.

                  There is a an emphasis on natural building, but doesn't forbid things like foam glass insulation (despite embodied carbon).

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                  • robloblaw@mastodon.socialR robloblaw@mastodon.social

                    @jpoesen
                    Permaculture is more concerned with ethics than low tech (The ethics of earth care, people care and fair share).

                    Practitioners tend to focus on appropriate technology. Solar panels have a negative environmental impact to manufacture, but are miles better than the alternatives. Sodium ion batteries are a better technology than lithium based chemistries, etc.

                    There is a an emphasis on natural building, but doesn't forbid things like foam glass insulation (despite embodied carbon).

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                    @jpoesen
                    Also:
                    https://permacultureglobal.org/

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                    Community

                    Find what brings us all together here in the Community Forum - there are matches to be made with like-minded permaculture people, art and music to share, and communities to build!

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                    (permies.com)

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                    • regendans@todon.euR regendans@todon.eu

                      @jpoesen Apart from checking Mastodon you might have a look at the Lemmy software based https://slrpnk.net/communities

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                      @regendans Thank you for sharing that, exactly what I was looking for 😊 @jpoesen

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                      • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

                        Where do the #lowtech and #NeoLuddites hang out? The #permaculture and #bicycle geeks? The co-op and #RepairCafe heroes?

                        Looking for alternate scenes around alternate living: sharing, building, eating, and learning together.

                        Much obliged.

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                        @jpoesen #BikeTooter will get you a variety of bikes, there is also an asynchronous #BikeNite on Fridays where people submit questions and answer them in the comments, often with discussions continuing all weekend

                        also for funsies: #CarryShitOlympics

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                        • nenon@masto.euroburners.euN nenon@masto.euroburners.eu

                          @jpoesen
                          Which city / area are you looking at?

                          @liaizon @binbash i feel like you might know more about this.

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                          @nenon @liaizon @binbash Mostly online, but physically: Andalucia / Malaga area.

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                          • skysong@floss.socialS skysong@floss.social

                            @707Kat @jpoesen I would love to volunteer to help people in this way.

                            The problem is a lack of demand. I don't hear about a lot of people who aren't already technically savvy about this stuff who are interested in moving away from big tech. Usually the reaction I see is "why would I care about that?"

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                            @skysong @707Kat @jpoesen
                            For me it is happening slowly. I talk about this topic regularly in my circles, but it took a while for even the politically more concious people to take a step. Now some of them are slowly changing services and networks - two or three years after talking about it the first time.
                            Sometimes change takes a while 🙂

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                            • jpoesen@social.jpoesen.comJ jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com

                              @nenon @liaizon @binbash Mostly online, but physically: Andalucia / Malaga area.

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                              @jpoesen @nenon @liaizon I try to be more active in offline communities rather than posting about it. So... Go to a repaircafé (if there is none, be the founder of one), build fancy bikes and post about them, find a local critical mass. If we're talking about rural Spain it is possible that there's not a high density of diy nerds in your area. Also I'd like to know more about your choice of settling down on a farm.

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                              • w8emv@a2mi.socialW w8emv@a2mi.social

                                @jpoesen

                                You can find bicycle people weekly on #bikenite (question and answer session) and also on #biketooter

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                                @w8emv @jpoesen Do steel frames make for a better ground plane? 😉

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                                • lopta@mastodon.socialL lopta@mastodon.social

                                  @w8emv @jpoesen Do steel frames make for a better ground plane? 😉

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                                  @lopta @jpoesen

                                  I've packed up a roll-up J-pole antenna in the past, stuck it into a saddle bag, then unrolled it and hung it from a hook on a nearby tree when operating. No ground plane needed. At least plausibly this works too if you have a suitable flagpole mount (fiberglass mast with a hook at the top).

                                  Or build the J-pole right into the flagpole, https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-DX/73-magazine/73-magazine-1982/73-magazine-09-september-1982.pdf has a design from Jim #W5AOX in 73 magazine from 1982.

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