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Let's make a Pi Pico 2 powered video card.

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  • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

    @gloriouscow hmm actually I don't think that would do it

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    #78

    @gloriouscow dumb question but have you checked HSYNC and VSYNC with a scope? I've had some monitors (although HDMI so probably quite different) where I've inverted or neglected one or the other and the PLL still sorta locks and you get an image

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    • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

      I do have a de10 nano FPGA board. It's in my MiSTer. Which I never use!

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      @gloriouscow A bit more expensive than 2 x $5 though 😅

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      • 2ndnaturedev@mastodon.nu2 2ndnaturedev@mastodon.nu

        @gloriouscow A bit more expensive than 2 x $5 though 😅

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        @2ndNatureDev

        I don't think you need anything near that to make a CGA, but yeah, anything with an FPGA is going to be a bit more expensive.

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        • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

          I do have a de10 nano FPGA board. It's in my MiSTer. Which I never use!

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          #81

          Right. This isn't completely baffling or anything

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          • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

            Right. This isn't completely baffling or anything

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            #82

            Oh, wait, I remember this level from ZZT.

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            • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

              Oh, wait, I remember this level from ZZT.

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              #83

              I think the elf needs food badly

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              • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                I think the elf needs food badly

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                #84

                okay this isn't that confusing

                for example, these are the snake pins. you can choose from left snakes or right snakes

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                • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                  Right. This isn't completely baffling or anything

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                  #85

                  @gloriouscow this seems like something @paulrickards would generate and send to his plotter

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                  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                    I'm starting to think a pico is not the appropriate thing to build a video card with.

                    all my fun ideas always end up with me concluding i should use an FPGA.

                    FPGAs are like the crabs of electronics projects. everything wants to turn into an FPGA if you give it enough time.

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                    #86

                    @gloriouscow are DSPs horribly unfashionable now? I remember for a minute in the 90s, everything was a DSP

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                    • robdaemon@hachyderm.ioR robdaemon@hachyderm.io

                      @gloriouscow this seems like something @paulrickards would generate and send to his plotter

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                      #87

                      @robdaemon @gloriouscow Totally, I'd plot that 🙂

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                      • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                        okay this isn't that confusing

                        for example, these are the snake pins. you can choose from left snakes or right snakes

                        Link Preview Image
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                        #88

                        you know, there's a very good reason NOT to use an FPGA

                        when you actually use the proper tools for a job, it stops becoming a hack.

                        you're no longer a hacker, you're some kind of engineer or something. ugh.

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                        • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                          you know, there's a very good reason NOT to use an FPGA

                          when you actually use the proper tools for a job, it stops becoming a hack.

                          you're no longer a hacker, you're some kind of engineer or something. ugh.

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                          #89

                          Well, I did an FPGA thing. Can check that off the bucket list.

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                          • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                            okay this isn't that confusing

                            for example, these are the snake pins. you can choose from left snakes or right snakes

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                            @gloriouscow this pin only does rising edges

                            That pin only does falling edges

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                            • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                              Well, I did an FPGA thing. Can check that off the bucket list.

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                              @gloriouscow

                              “That's why they call me the Count!” —you, probably

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                              • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                                @gloriouscow

                                “That's why they call me the Count!” —you, probably

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                                @argv_minus_one nobody has ever called me the count, and i hope they do not start

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                                • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                  Well, I did an FPGA thing. Can check that off the bucket list.

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                                  @gloriouscow

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                                  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                    Well, I did an FPGA thing. Can check that off the bucket list.

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                                    #94

                                    Okay, lets see if I can get a 14.31818MHz clock out of this thing.

                                    We have a 50MHz clock source, on a pin called FPGA_CLK1_50.

                                    How do we get 14.31818MHz out of that?

                                    By attaching a PLL to it, hopefully.

                                    module de10_clock_test (
                                    input wire FPGA_CLK1_50,
                                    output wire GPIO_1_0
                                    );

                                    wire clk_osc;
                                    wire pll_locked;

                                    cga_pll pll_inst (
                                    .refclk (FPGA_CLK1_50),
                                    .rst (1'b0),
                                    .outclk_0 (clk_osc),
                                    .locked (pll_locked)
                                    );

                                    assign GPIO_1_0 = clk_osc;
                                    endmodule
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                                    • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                      Okay, lets see if I can get a 14.31818MHz clock out of this thing.

                                      We have a 50MHz clock source, on a pin called FPGA_CLK1_50.

                                      How do we get 14.31818MHz out of that?

                                      By attaching a PLL to it, hopefully.

                                      module de10_clock_test (
                                      input wire FPGA_CLK1_50,
                                      output wire GPIO_1_0
                                      );

                                      wire clk_osc;
                                      wire pll_locked;

                                      cga_pll pll_inst (
                                      .refclk (FPGA_CLK1_50),
                                      .rst (1'b0),
                                      .outclk_0 (clk_osc),
                                      .locked (pll_locked)
                                      );

                                      assign GPIO_1_0 = clk_osc;
                                      endmodule
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                                      pll_inst is a PLL instantiation. But notice it says nothing about like dividers or anything. We have to go into something confusingly called the IP (Incendiary Pickle) Catalog to actually configure the PLL.

                                      This is far as a I get because doing this causes Quartus to hang.

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                                      • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                        pll_inst is a PLL instantiation. But notice it says nothing about like dividers or anything. We have to go into something confusingly called the IP (Incendiary Pickle) Catalog to actually configure the PLL.

                                        This is far as a I get because doing this causes Quartus to hang.

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                                        Oh wait I just had to wait seventeen minutes. cool.

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                                        • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                          Oh wait I just had to wait seventeen minutes. cool.

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                                          i bet there are people reading this that know how to actually use this stuff and are having themselves a sensible chuckle at my expense

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