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  3. The goal isn't to protect children, the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

The goal isn't to protect children, the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

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  • lxskllr@mastodon.worldL lxskllr@mastodon.world

    @Em0nM4stodon

    It's kind of preaching to the choir here. Mastodon seems to be a haven for peeps, either by vocation, or life circumstances are attuned to the problems this will cause.

    I see semi supportive comments showup even on general tech sites, where I feel they should know better. For the general population? I don't know what it would take to get them to oppose "protecting the children"(lulz). If all this(looks around, stretches arms) doesn't cause alarm, I don't know what will.

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    stinson_108@mastodon.social
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    @lxskllr @Em0nM4stodon

    The tech types--and not the tech bros--understand full well the implication of the "common sense measures to protect the children."

    Remind them that even public figures need the protection of anonymity. Publius was the pseudonym of John Jay, James Madison, and Alexander Hamilton.

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    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

      The goal isn't to protect children,
      the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

      Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

      This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

      This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

      This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

      This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

      This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

      Do not let them do this to us.

      #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

      kkarhan@infosec.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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      kkarhan@infosec.space
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      #16

      @Em0nM4stodon it's #Cyberfascism and it's nit enough to merely force them to backpeddle, but DEMAND #HumanRightsBack - WITH INTEREST!

      • And not just refuse to comply, but actively sabotage #SurveillanceTech!

      Kevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)

      @nixCraft@mastodon.social thus the only valid reaction is to *proactively refuse to comply* and *actively sabotage* such #cyberfascist efforts! - I mean, what's next? - #Russia's #Roskomnadnozr demanding *"#KYC"* of #Users for using #WiFi chipsets? - *"P.R."* #China's *"Cybersecurity Administration"* demanding system-wide blocking of #VPN & @torproject@mastodon.social / #Tor? Just like noone should comply with that #cyberfascism, so should noone comply with #US-based cyberfascism either! - Use #Monero and give #ITAR the finger… - Refuse to finance #terrorism by refusing to create taxable revenue for U.S. corporations! I certainly won't comply with cyberfascism in @OS1337 and any *"#AgeVerification"* is #fascist bullshit under false pretense that needs to be outlawed!

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      #HumanRights #CivilRights

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      • unfinishedsymphony@gts.epigaea.netU unfinishedsymphony@gts.epigaea.net

        @Em0nM4stodon In the US, we need to fight against KOSA, which is advancing in our legislature.

        The Kids Online Safety Act Will Make the Internet Worse for Everyone

        This bill won’t bother big tech. Large companies will be able to manage this regulation, which is why Apple and X have agreed to support it. In fact, X helped negotiate the text of the last version of this bill we saw. Meanwhile, those companies’ smaller competitors will be left scrambling to comply. Under KOSA, a small platform hosting mental health discussion boards will be just as vulnerable as Meta or TikTok—but much less able to defend itself. 

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        The Kids Online Safety Act Will Make the Internet Worse for Everyone

        Lawmakers who support KOSA today are choosing to trust the current administration, and future administrations, to define what youth—and to some degree, all of us—should be allowed to read online. KOSA will not make kids safer. It will make the internet more dangerous for anyone who relies on it to learn, connect, or speak freely. Lawmakers should reject it, and fast.

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        @unfinishedsymphony @Em0nM4stodon I consider the #USA a #RogueNation akin to "P.R." #China, #Russia, #KSA, #NorthKorea and #Iran:

        • One does not comply to their demands!
        • One does not cooperate with them!
        • One does not regard them as anything but a hostile actor / force!
        • One does not trust them with anything regardless of triviality!!

        Kevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)

        @nixCraft@mastodon.social thus the only valid reaction is to *proactively refuse to comply* and *actively sabotage* such #cyberfascist efforts! - I mean, what's next? - #Russia's #Roskomnadnozr demanding *"#KYC"* of #Users for using #WiFi chipsets? - *"P.R."* #China's *"Cybersecurity Administration"* demanding system-wide blocking of #VPN & @torproject@mastodon.social / #Tor? Just like noone should comply with that #cyberfascism, so should noone comply with #US-based cyberfascism either! - Use #Monero and give #ITAR the finger… - Refuse to finance #terrorism by refusing to create taxable revenue for U.S. corporations! I certainly won't comply with cyberfascism in @OS1337 and any *"#AgeVerification"* is #fascist bullshit under false pretense that needs to be outlawed!

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        #Cyberfascism

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        • accordingtowouter@mastodon.worldA accordingtowouter@mastodon.world

          @Em0nM4stodon It’s those in power who want this. To increase their control over us. And then there are those stupid idiots who say: ‘I’ve got nothing to hide. Go ahead.’

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          @AccordingtoWouter https://hachyderm.io/@davidculley/116270818283255503

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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            The goal isn't to protect children,
            the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

            Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

            This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

            This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

            This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

            This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

            This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

            Do not let them do this to us.

            #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

            peter_panther@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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            peter_panther@mastodon.social
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            #19

            @Em0nM4stodon

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            Fight Chat Control - Protect Digital Privacy in the EU

            Learn about the EU Chat Control proposal and contact your representatives to protect digital privacy and encryption.

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            (fightchatcontrol.eu)

            To get MEPs uphold the vote against mass surveilance of messengers.

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            • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

              @Em0nM4stodon The craziest thing to me is that there is no way a thing like this wouldn't ultimately hurt children far more than anything they are *claiming* it supposedly prevents.

              Like how does that not just automatically become a deal killer for all these bills?

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              tuga@masto.pt
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              @nazokiyoubinbou
              The only care they have for children is the type that lands them in the Epstein files.
              @Em0nM4stodon

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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                The goal isn't to protect children,
                the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

                Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

                This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

                This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

                This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

                This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

                This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

                Do not let them do this to us.

                #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

                isbm@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                isbm@mastodon.social
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                #21

                @Em0nM4stodon because we cannot encrypt WhatsApp messages and send base64 over Whatsapp protocol? Just see these end to end eNcRyPtEd systems as plain old good SMTP. Then just apply S/MIME on top of it. 🤷‍♂️🤣

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                • unfinishedsymphony@gts.epigaea.netU unfinishedsymphony@gts.epigaea.net

                  @Em0nM4stodon In the US, we need to fight against KOSA, which is advancing in our legislature.

                  The Kids Online Safety Act Will Make the Internet Worse for Everyone

                  This bill won’t bother big tech. Large companies will be able to manage this regulation, which is why Apple and X have agreed to support it. In fact, X helped negotiate the text of the last version of this bill we saw. Meanwhile, those companies’ smaller competitors will be left scrambling to comply. Under KOSA, a small platform hosting mental health discussion boards will be just as vulnerable as Meta or TikTok—but much less able to defend itself. 

                  Link Preview Image
                  The Kids Online Safety Act Will Make the Internet Worse for Everyone

                  Lawmakers who support KOSA today are choosing to trust the current administration, and future administrations, to define what youth—and to some degree, all of us—should be allowed to read online. KOSA will not make kids safer. It will make the internet more dangerous for anyone who relies on it to learn, connect, or speak freely. Lawmakers should reject it, and fast.

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                  @unfinishedsymphony @Em0nM4stodon as someone from the UK I am appalled that this law was implemented, it will do nothing but harm. I see no good coming out of it

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                    radicalecologist@todon.eu
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                    #23

                    @LukefromDC
                    We only need to start with developer participation in a #CyberRiot and supporters applying pressure on them to do so. The entire world runs on #FOSS projects held together by core teams of a handful of people. We can begin the fight from the core outwards this time because we already control that space.
                    @Em0nM4stodon

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                    • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
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                      #24

                      @LukefromDC @Em0nM4stodon Oh don't misunderstand. I don't mean the ones pushing these bills forward. I mean basically everyone else but them. All the people who actually foolishly believe this is all to somehow help children and not, you know, getting a bunch of kids and adults hurt or killed.

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                      • tuga@masto.ptT tuga@masto.pt

                        @nazokiyoubinbou
                        The only care they have for children is the type that lands them in the Epstein files.
                        @Em0nM4stodon

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                        @tuga @Em0nM4stodon I don't mean the ones pushing the bills, I mean the ones who actually convince themselves they somehow help children somehow and vote for them.

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                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                          The goal isn't to protect children,
                          the goal is to de-anonymize every comment and action on the internet, associating it with a legal ID, by eventually requesting official identification from every adult using a computer.

                          Some politicians have already stated this plainly.

                          This leads to censorship of anyone criticizing their government.

                          This leads to repression of marginalized people, especially immigrants, people of color, and trans and gender diverse people.

                          This leads to self-censorship of any comments or actions that could be interpreted against the system. Such as speaking out against fascism and authoritarian surveillance, or defending human rights publicly.

                          This leads to total control of the population and its tools of communications.

                          This leads to the end of democracy, centralizing power even more in the hands of a few.

                          Do not let them do this to us.

                          #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #Authoritarianism #HumanRights

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                          peteriskrisjanis@toot.lv
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                          #26

                          @Em0nM4stodon yep, even if some of laws did not start this way, intent has been telegraphed many times.
                          This shall not pass, but also there should be very VERY LOUD NO.

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                          • unfinishedsymphony@gts.epigaea.netU unfinishedsymphony@gts.epigaea.net

                            @Em0nM4stodon In the US, we need to fight against KOSA, which is advancing in our legislature.

                            The Kids Online Safety Act Will Make the Internet Worse for Everyone

                            This bill won’t bother big tech. Large companies will be able to manage this regulation, which is why Apple and X have agreed to support it. In fact, X helped negotiate the text of the last version of this bill we saw. Meanwhile, those companies’ smaller competitors will be left scrambling to comply. Under KOSA, a small platform hosting mental health discussion boards will be just as vulnerable as Meta or TikTok—but much less able to defend itself. 

                            Link Preview Image
                            The Kids Online Safety Act Will Make the Internet Worse for Everyone

                            Lawmakers who support KOSA today are choosing to trust the current administration, and future administrations, to define what youth—and to some degree, all of us—should be allowed to read online. KOSA will not make kids safer. It will make the internet more dangerous for anyone who relies on it to learn, connect, or speak freely. Lawmakers should reject it, and fast.

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                            justinmac84@mastodon.social
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                            @unfinishedsymphony @Em0nM4stodon Goodness please do! The UK's Online Safety Act has been a disaster!

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