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  3. The FBI case against the Southern Poverty Law Center basically says that if you donate money to the SPLC, then they use some of it to pay informants to infiltrate white nationalist organizations to uncover stuff like this.

The FBI case against the Southern Poverty Law Center basically says that if you donate money to the SPLC, then they use some of it to pay informants to infiltrate white nationalist organizations to uncover stuff like this.

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  • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

    @mekkaokereke @not2b

    They send out mailers to people who donate. They made that a cover story and then wrote about it. They called Hawaii's indigenous water protectors a "hate group". 14 years I lived in Hawaii. I never met a hateful Hawaiian person. I complained & stopped donating. I probably wasn't the only person who did so. So maybe they've stopped advertising and bragging about targeting indigenous people? I hope so.

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    @FranceskaMann @mekkaokereke I would like to find out the details. I am not saying this because I doubt you. I would like to know though.

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    • tomjennings@tldr.nettime.orgT tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org

      @raven667

      Is there evidence that gov't is harassing individual donors?

      Is that enough to stop you?

      Why comply in advance? It won't save you.

      @monkeyninja

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      @tomjennings @raven667 There’s a world of difference between “complying in advance” and “I’m part of a group with targets on their backs and keeping a low profile is what allows me to not have daily panic attacks.”

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      • mpjgregoire@cosocial.caM mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca

        "In Harper’s, Ken Silverstein had revealed that the center had accumulated an endowment topping [$120M] while paying lavish salaries to its highest-ranking staffers and spending far less than most nonprofit groups on the work that it claimed to do. The great Southern journalist John Egerton, writing for The Progressive, had painted a damning portrait of [...] civil-rights work mainly as a marketing tool for bilking gullible Northern liberals."

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        The Reckoning of Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center

        Bob Moser writes on the Southern Poverty Law Center firing its co-founder and longtime mastermind Morris Dees, after years of allegations of sexual harassment and racial discrimination against him.

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        @mpjgregoire @mekkaokereke

        a hatchet job by the NYT is more endorsement than condemnation in my mind...

        they've been a fascist publicity firm in their op-eds and choice/wording of headlines longer than i've been alive.

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        • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

          @mpjgregoire @mekkaokereke

          a hatchet job by the NYT is more endorsement than condemnation in my mind...

          they've been a fascist publicity firm in their op-eds and choice/wording of headlines longer than i've been alive.

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          @paul_ipv6
          There are lots of reasons to criticise the *NY Times*, I agree. But this exposé is from the *New Yorker*, and I've seen similar articles from other serious magazines.

          Here's a good one from a left-leaning website: https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2019/03/the-southern-poverty-law-center-is-everything-thats-wrong-with-liberalism

          @mekkaokereke

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          • mpjgregoire@cosocial.caM mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca

            @paul_ipv6
            There are lots of reasons to criticise the *NY Times*, I agree. But this exposé is from the *New Yorker*, and I've seen similar articles from other serious magazines.

            Here's a good one from a left-leaning website: https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2019/03/the-southern-poverty-law-center-is-everything-thats-wrong-with-liberalism

            @mekkaokereke

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            @mpjgregoire @mekkaokereke

            they may not be perfect but they do some very effective work.

            i'm more concerned with the precedent. using the DoJ to be the department of right wing revenge, along with the possibility of the IRS yanking non-profit status from anyone called a "terrorist" if they critize the government are truly existential threats to free speech and free society.

            let's kill that first, then worry about cleaning up non-profits.

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            • not2b@sfba.socialN not2b@sfba.social

              @monkeyninja @mekkaokereke As a 501-c3 they might not be able to accept anonymized contributions, though.

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              @not2b @monkeyninja @mekkaokereke

              As long as you donate less than $5k a year, anon donations are fine. Donations $5k and over are supposed to be reported by name (or org) on Schedule B of the 990.

              So give $4999.99 or less. But that's per person, not household. FYI. Some orgs combine spouses accts by default but you can direct them specifically not to, esp if you file personal taxes separately.

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              • monkeyninja@10base2.devM monkeyninja@10base2.dev

                @tomjennings @raven667 There’s a world of difference between “complying in advance” and “I’m part of a group with targets on their backs and keeping a low profile is what allows me to not have daily panic attacks.”

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                @monkeyninja @tomjennings @raven667

                The post office (and therefore Doge and Palentir) knows every org that has sent you a ty letter in the last 10 years-ish. They scan everyone's mail. You can go to the usps website and sign up for them to send you an email every day with your scanned mail items expected to be delivered to you.

                They send them daily except Sundays. So, they already know the types of orgs you hzve given to. To pollute the data you have to give (tiny) donations to some RW orgs.

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                • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                  @mpjgregoire @mekkaokereke

                  they may not be perfect but they do some very effective work.

                  i'm more concerned with the precedent. using the DoJ to be the department of right wing revenge, along with the possibility of the IRS yanking non-profit status from anyone called a "terrorist" if they critize the government are truly existential threats to free speech and free society.

                  let's kill that first, then worry about cleaning up non-profits.

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                  @paul_ipv6
                  Like I said, we shouldn't have much confidence in the Trump Justice Department, no. But we should also hold tight to our wallets when it comes to the SPLC.

                  @mekkaokereke

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                  • missgayle@urbanists.socialM missgayle@urbanists.social

                    @monkeyninja @tomjennings @raven667

                    The post office (and therefore Doge and Palentir) knows every org that has sent you a ty letter in the last 10 years-ish. They scan everyone's mail. You can go to the usps website and sign up for them to send you an email every day with your scanned mail items expected to be delivered to you.

                    They send them daily except Sundays. So, they already know the types of orgs you hzve given to. To pollute the data you have to give (tiny) donations to some RW orgs.

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                    @MissGayle

                    > To pollute the data you have to give (tiny) donations to some RW orgs.

                    No. This is crazy talk. Best to block me.

                    I'm not responding to this thread any further.

                    @monkeyninja @raven667

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                    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                      This is where the people that donated to the Southern Poverty Law Center went to donate, so that their money could be used to infiltrate and uncover white nationalist organizations.

                      So don't donate here unless you want some of your money to be used to uncover white nationalist organizations.

                      Just a moment...

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                      (secure.splcenter.org)

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                      @mekkaokereke Just donated for the first time ever.

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                      • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                        This is where the people that donated to the Southern Poverty Law Center went to donate, so that their money could be used to infiltrate and uncover white nationalist organizations.

                        So don't donate here unless you want some of your money to be used to uncover white nationalist organizations.

                        Just a moment...

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                        (secure.splcenter.org)

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                        @mekkaokereke It is very common for legal organizations to do what the SPLC does. I remember during my parents shit-show of a divorce, my mother's lawyer could dispatch a short of private investigator. Legal Discovery has very very very very few rules to it.

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                        • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                          The FBI case against the Southern Poverty Law Center basically says that if you donate money to the SPLC, then they use some of it to pay informants to infiltrate white nationalist organizations to uncover stuff like this.

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                          Stephen Miller

                          Stephen Miller is credited with shaping the racist and draconian immigration policies of President Trump, which include the zero-tolerance policy, also known as family separation, the Muslim ban and ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. Miller has also “purged” government agencies of civil servants who are not entirely loyal to his extremist agenda, according to a report […]

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                          @mekkaokereke Good!!

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                          • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                            The FBI case against the Southern Poverty Law Center basically says that if you donate money to the SPLC, then they use some of it to pay informants to infiltrate white nationalist organizations to uncover stuff like this.

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                            Stephen Miller

                            Stephen Miller is credited with shaping the racist and draconian immigration policies of President Trump, which include the zero-tolerance policy, also known as family separation, the Muslim ban and ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. Miller has also “purged” government agencies of civil servants who are not entirely loyal to his extremist agenda, according to a report […]

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                            @mekkaokereke Sounds like money well spent.

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                            • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                              The FBI case against the Southern Poverty Law Center basically says that if you donate money to the SPLC, then they use some of it to pay informants to infiltrate white nationalist organizations to uncover stuff like this.

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                              Stephen Miller

                              Stephen Miller is credited with shaping the racist and draconian immigration policies of President Trump, which include the zero-tolerance policy, also known as family separation, the Muslim ban and ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. Miller has also “purged” government agencies of civil servants who are not entirely loyal to his extremist agenda, according to a report […]

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                              @mekkaokereke That guy is a demon escaped from hell. Plus, I'm in my fifties and he looks like we went to college together. Whatever he's doing to stay young is not working. He would actually look healthier if he started smoking two packs a day.

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                              • draken@masto.nycD draken@masto.nyc

                                @mekkaokereke

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                                @draken @mekkaokereke

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                                • draken@masto.nycD draken@masto.nyc

                                  @mekkaokereke

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                                  @draken he’s totally Trump’s Renfield.

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                                  • csgraves@turtleisland.socialC csgraves@turtleisland.social

                                    @draken he’s totally Trump’s Renfield.

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                                    @csgraves
                                    I think the Presidementia is his Renfield.

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                                    • draken@masto.nycD draken@masto.nyc

                                      @csgraves
                                      I think the Presidementia is his Renfield.

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                                      @draken fair point. Either way, they’re both gross ass bad and nasty people.

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                                      • csgraves@turtleisland.socialC csgraves@turtleisland.social

                                        @draken fair point. Either way, they’re both gross ass bad and nasty people.

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                                        @csgraves
                                        No arguments there.

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                                        • mathowie@xoxo.zoneM mathowie@xoxo.zone

                                          @mekkaokereke Reading this toot, I was just tricked into remembering I have a charitable giving account and after a few clicks, whoosh, they got my money!

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                                          @mekkaokereke wait. Holy shit, in six years of having a charitable giving account I’ve never had my request refused by Fidelity. But it just happened. Looks like due to government litigation.

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