I have argued this point in the past, as I'm sure many others, but it's nice to have a term for this concept: hobbyless behavior.

[knutson_brain@sfba.social]

@stefan
There’s a #GermanWord for that:
#hobbylosigkeit ( bitte )

[jorgecandeias@mastodon.social]

@stefan Hm... there may be some cultural barrier here, but I don't get it. I mean, I get the words and what they mean, but I can't understand the concept. Or how people being jerks relates to not having hobbies.

[revpancakes@hachyderm.io]

@jorgecandeias @stefan It’s something like “you wouldn’t be doing that if you had your own stuff going on”

[stefan@stefanbohacek.online]

@RevPancakes @jorgecandeias Yep, this.

[irelephant@app.wafrn.net]

@stefan@stefanbohacek.online @abbiistabbii@blahaj.zone

@abbiistabbii you got screnshotted

[stefan@stefanbohacek.online]

@abbiistabbii Ah, hope that's alright! Happy to take this down.

(Found via Bluesky.)

@irelephant

[jorgecandeias@mastodon.social]

@RevPancakes @stefan OK, so my lack of understanding isn't culturally based, but experience based.

See, I've been involved in fandoms for decades, and I know people deeply involved in football stuff, both things very hobby-centric.

And in both groups, there's jerks and jerk behaviours aplenty.

So yeah. Not a fan of the term here.

[revpancakes@hachyderm.io]

@jorgecandeias @stefan I’ve absolutely seen toxic stuff in fandom and hobbyist spaces but, at least in my experience, it’s usually a different type to what’s been called out here.

Fandom stuff tends to be over-invested and insistant rather than apathetic and belligerent.

[abbiistabbii@blahaj.zone]

@irelephant@app.wafrn.net @stefan@stefanbohacek.online me rn

[jorgecandeias@mastodon.social]

@RevPancakes @stefan Hm... you've got a point there, although there's lots of over-invested and belligerent stuff too in those spaces.

[jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.social]

@stefan

I like this phrase ‘hobbyless behaviour’, because it just gets to the nub of what so many vacuous one way comments are these days.

Being a keyboard warrior isn’t a hobby.

[sventetzlaff@literatur.social]

@stefan Samma, hast Du nix zu tun? 🤪

[apostateenglishman@mastodon.world]

@jorgecandeias @RevPancakes @stefan It's not to be taken too literally; it's just another way of saying "they should find something better to do".

[nini@oldbytes.space]

@stefan "Touch grass" but more devastatingly personal.

[niklasmm@freiburg.social]

@stefan this seems to refer to some German expression, but as a German I don't get which. Can someone enlighten me?

[masek@infosec.exchange]

@stefan As a German I thought long and hard, what German phrase was meant.

My best guess is the question "Hast Du kein anderes Hobby?"

This is asked as question and has an even harder sting than the accusation of "hobbyless behaviour".

Because it ask "Don't you have any other hobby?" and therefore implies, that you made anti-social behavior to be your only past time.

[taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org]

@stefan That's just "touch grass" in zoomer English.

[miawinter@tech.lgbt]

@stefan I haven't thought about "hobbylos" in quite a while, thanks for reminding me

[alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work]

@jorgecandeias @stefan it's very much like "you wouldn't be bothering me if you had something to do in your life"

[stefan@stefanbohacek.online]

@masek Found a bit more about this here:

Post by @wildersage

Honestly with some distance i think I'd say german teenagers were onto something when they used "hobbyless" as the default insult in the early 2010s

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"I'd say german teenagers were onto something when they used "hobbyless" as the default insult in the early 2010s"

"dutch teens still do this!!"