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i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

    the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

    and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

    that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

    spzb@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #13

    @davidgerard I thought "agentic payments" was how 007 got his salary

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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

      the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

      and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

      that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

      henryk@chaos.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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      henryk@chaos.social
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      #14

      @davidgerard I do money-adjacent thinga and was confused, too, when people started talking about the upcoming agentic AI payments revolution. Like, ok, ignore the stochastic parrot aspect, but what big great new invention do you think you're going to need to build even if it works?! An AI agent can send an authenticated POST request good as any other client. Give it credentials and it's off to the races. No new technological secret sauce necessary.

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

        the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

        and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

        that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

        toerror@mastodon.gamedev.placeT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #15

        @davidgerard I noticed the graun publish this on behalf of Mastercard a while back:

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        Is AI set to transform the way we shop? (Hint: yes, it is)

        From choosing a new outfit based on your budget and taste, to making sure you always have your kitchen staples replenished, a new consumer revolution is underway thanks to the power of artificial intelligence

        favicon

        the Guardian (web.archive.org)

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

          the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

          and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

          that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

          orb2069@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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          #16

          @davidgerard more like "they keep fucking up, but people actually care if they do it with money."

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          • toerror@mastodon.gamedev.placeT toerror@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @davidgerard I noticed the graun publish this on behalf of Mastercard a while back:

            Link Preview Image
            Is AI set to transform the way we shop? (Hint: yes, it is)

            From choosing a new outfit based on your budget and taste, to making sure you always have your kitchen staples replenished, a new consumer revolution is underway thanks to the power of artificial intelligence

            favicon

            the Guardian (web.archive.org)

            davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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            davidgerard@circumstances.run
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            #17

            @toerror lol the fuck is that

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

              the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

              and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

              that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

              ladytel@masto.hackers.townL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #18

              @davidgerard yeah I've been seeing billboards around town and I don't understand why agents need their own money. Is it even an agent wallet or just a prompt like "hey your claw mistress wants to buy smut accept or decline?"

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                @toerror lol the fuck is that

                toerror@mastodon.gamedev.placeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #19

                @davidgerard I like the way it manages to be insulting, smug and wrong in the headline alone.

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                • toerror@mastodon.gamedev.placeT toerror@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @davidgerard I noticed the graun publish this on behalf of Mastercard a while back:

                  Link Preview Image
                  Is AI set to transform the way we shop? (Hint: yes, it is)

                  From choosing a new outfit based on your budget and taste, to making sure you always have your kitchen staples replenished, a new consumer revolution is underway thanks to the power of artificial intelligence

                  favicon

                  the Guardian (web.archive.org)

                  kamellatate@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  kamellatate@mastodon.social
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                  #20

                  @toerror @davidgerard "Instead of doing all the hard work themselves . . . " I mean really, why have humans at all???

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                  • kamellatate@mastodon.socialK kamellatate@mastodon.social

                    @toerror @davidgerard "Instead of doing all the hard work themselves . . . " I mean really, why have humans at all???

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                    #21

                    @kamellatate @davidgerard The ultimate aim of AI is to turn everything into a multifractal circular billing scheme with AIs passing money about at every level.

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

                      the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

                      and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

                      that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

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                      #22

                      @davidgerard The hype people love LLMs because they give really good demos.

                      They are basically hyper-optimized for looking impressive at a glance and anything else they do is pretty much a coincidence.

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

                        the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

                        and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

                        that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

                        jer@chirp.enworld.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        jer@chirp.enworld.org
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                        #23

                        @davidgerard Payments industry doesn't care if it works completely or not, they care if it reduces friction for purchases. The more payments they process the more money they make

                        So if having an agent buy things means people buy more things then they're going to love it. And if the agent has the authority to just go off and buy shit for you there are definitely people who are going to turn it on and never notice that their accounts are being slowly drained by an agent buying shit in their name

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                        • toerror@mastodon.gamedev.placeT toerror@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @kamellatate @davidgerard The ultimate aim of AI is to turn everything into a multifractal circular billing scheme with AIs passing money about at every level.

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                          #24

                          @toerror @kamellatate @davidgerard if you earn a percentage on every transaction that sounds like a profitable future

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

                            the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

                            and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

                            that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

                            coolcalmcollected@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            coolcalmcollected@mastodon.social
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                            #25

                            @davidgerard

                            madness

                            I won't install a banking app let alone allow a program with sub 50% accuracy to handle my money

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

                              the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

                              and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

                              that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

                              fivetonsflax@tilde.zoneF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #26

                              @davidgerard You'd think this would be the one area where the FA/FO cycle runs tightly enough to nip idiocy in the bud ...

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