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i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

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  • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

    @davidgerard is there any potential money laundering aspect to this

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    #10

    @hipsterelectron the articles don't seem to mention AML at all, which is odd cos when the same people talk about crypto they certainly do

    so they're envisioning this as mainstream and normal

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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      @hipsterelectron the articles don't seem to mention AML at all, which is odd cos when the same people talk about crypto they certainly do

      so they're envisioning this as mainstream and normal

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      #11

      @davidgerard it seems like one way to cook the books against the IRS. but that might be wrong

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      • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

        @davidgerard it seems like one way to cook the books against the IRS. but that might be wrong

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        #12

        @davidgerard i'm actually looking to apply for clerical work in tax court partially for this reason

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

          the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

          and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

          that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

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          @davidgerard I thought "agentic payments" was how 007 got his salary

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

            the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

            and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

            that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

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            #14

            @davidgerard I do money-adjacent thinga and was confused, too, when people started talking about the upcoming agentic AI payments revolution. Like, ok, ignore the stochastic parrot aspect, but what big great new invention do you think you're going to need to build even if it works?! An AI agent can send an authenticated POST request good as any other client. Give it credentials and it's off to the races. No new technological secret sauce necessary.

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

              the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

              and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

              that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

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              @davidgerard I noticed the graun publish this on behalf of Mastercard a while back:

              https://web.archive.org/web/20260323120743/https://www.theguardian.com/priceless-experiences-with-mastercard/2026/mar/13/how-ai-is-transforming-the-way-we-shop

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

                the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

                and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

                that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

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                @davidgerard more like "they keep fucking up, but people actually care if they do it with money."

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                • toerror@mastodon.gamedev.placeT toerror@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @davidgerard I noticed the graun publish this on behalf of Mastercard a while back:

                  https://web.archive.org/web/20260323120743/https://www.theguardian.com/priceless-experiences-with-mastercard/2026/mar/13/how-ai-is-transforming-the-way-we-shop

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                  @toerror lol the fuck is that

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

                    the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

                    and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

                    that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

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                    #18

                    @davidgerard yeah I've been seeing billboards around town and I don't understand why agents need their own money. Is it even an agent wallet or just a prompt like "hey your claw mistress wants to buy smut accept or decline?"

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      @toerror lol the fuck is that

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                      @davidgerard I like the way it manages to be insulting, smug and wrong in the headline alone.

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                      • toerror@mastodon.gamedev.placeT toerror@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @davidgerard I noticed the graun publish this on behalf of Mastercard a while back:

                        https://web.archive.org/web/20260323120743/https://www.theguardian.com/priceless-experiences-with-mastercard/2026/mar/13/how-ai-is-transforming-the-way-we-shop

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                        #20

                        @toerror @davidgerard "Instead of doing all the hard work themselves . . . " I mean really, why have humans at all???

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                        • kamellatate@mastodon.socialK kamellatate@mastodon.social

                          @toerror @davidgerard "Instead of doing all the hard work themselves . . . " I mean really, why have humans at all???

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                          @kamellatate @davidgerard The ultimate aim of AI is to turn everything into a multifractal circular billing scheme with AIs passing money about at every level.

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

                            the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

                            and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

                            that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

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                            @davidgerard The hype people love LLMs because they give really good demos.

                            They are basically hyper-optimized for looking impressive at a glance and anything else they do is pretty much a coincidence.

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

                              the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

                              and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

                              that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

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                              @davidgerard Payments industry doesn't care if it works completely or not, they care if it reduces friction for purchases. The more payments they process the more money they make

                              So if having an agent buy things means people buy more things then they're going to love it. And if the agent has the authority to just go off and buy shit for you there are definitely people who are going to turn it on and never notice that their accounts are being slowly drained by an agent buying shit in their name

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                              • toerror@mastodon.gamedev.placeT toerror@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                @kamellatate @davidgerard The ultimate aim of AI is to turn everything into a multifractal circular billing scheme with AIs passing money about at every level.

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                                @toerror @kamellatate @davidgerard if you earn a percentage on every transaction that sounds like a profitable future

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                                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                  i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

                                  the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

                                  and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

                                  that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

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                                  @davidgerard

                                  madness

                                  I won't install a banking app let alone allow a program with sub 50% accuracy to handle my money

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                                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                    i really need to write something about "agentic payments"

                                    the whole payments sphere is gaga for AI agents

                                    and blithely constructs towers of hypecrafting

                                    that ignore the minor material detail that AI agents don't fucking work and AI agents keep fucking up if you let them near actual money

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                                    @davidgerard You'd think this would be the one area where the FA/FO cycle runs tightly enough to nip idiocy in the bud ...

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