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It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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  • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

    It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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    @cloudhop you should have put a content warning around that, because i definitely just got dumber reading that.
    Also, makes you roll your eyes so hard it could pull a muscle.

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    • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

      It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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      @cloudhop 20-30% of AI-generated code in Windows seems to be going really well:
      https://www.theverge.com/news/867647/microsoft-windows-11-january-2026-update-bugs-issues
      https://www.pcworld.com/article/3060768/windows-11-update-kb5077181-causes-startup-problems-heres-what-you-can-do.html

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      • interru@hooves.socialI interru@hooves.social

        @cloudhop@equestria.social

        Software development is no longer constrained by typing speed, but by how clearly engineers articulate intent.
        Writing code directly without AI articulates intent best. So, vibe coding is about articulating vague intent and hoping magic 8-ball fills the gaps im such a way that it covers your use case.

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        @interru @cloudhop I mean I can imagine that at some point I'd rather check diffs from the llm rather than typing them myself ... same way as I sometimes don't want to read compiler logs. But if the plan is to let people work in those mental regimes regularly, count me out. Because taking a nap fixes that a lot better.

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        • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

          It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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          @cloudhop I used to buy magazines that had programs that you could type in. Think might have been the last time my programming was constrained by typing speed. The hard part has always been understanding the task at hand and formulating the best way to achieve it.

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          • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

            It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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            @cloudhop as a composer I am no longer constrained by how fast I can play the piano

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            • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

              It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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              @cloudhop typing speed? I'm speechless, do they even know what they're talking about?

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              • bangskij@climatejustice.socialB bangskij@climatejustice.social

                @cloudhop as a composer I am no longer constrained by how fast I can play the piano

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                @cloudhop now the AI makes songs in thousands of BPM's, soon - millions of BPM's will be within reach, eventually the songs will become sentient and rule with an iron fist

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                • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                  It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                  @cloudhop @xgranade Any time I see 'serial entrepreneur' the first thought is 'okay so what happened to all their other ventures'.

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                  • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                    It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                    #16

                    @cloudhop Show me the code printouts!

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                    • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                      It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                      @cloudhop Soon, soon my pretties, CEOering will no longer be constrained by counting beans

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                      • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                        It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                        @cloudhop Lol. I know Devs who are 10 times better than I will ever be and can't even blind type. Typing speed 🤦

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                        • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                          It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                          @cloudhop I've heard the claim from my SO that he gets about 12 lines of code in the final product per day. Is that true? If so, it's definitely not typing speed that restricts him since he types waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster than me and I type waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster than most of my colleagues.

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                          • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                            It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                            @cloudhop Yeah, I remember all my software engineering skills I got from Mavis Beacon.

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                            • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                              It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                              @cloudhop
                              I mean it's a pretty accurate understanding of programming measurements as 'lines of code' without ever once considering 'that compiles', and somehow people have used THAT as a metric!

                              (which is to say, this is hilariously awful, but they've made a lot of really dumb decisions before now too!)

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                              • pare@kamu.socialP pare@kamu.social

                                @cloudhop Lines of code has been the main metric in software development for decades. /s

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                                @pare @cloudhop probably yes. But OTOH I have never heard of mandatory touch typing training.

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                                • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                                  It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                                  @cloudhop same with fiction. Authors no longer constrained by typing speed. Take that, Stephen King!

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                                  • jacel@m.prettyshiny.orgJ jacel@m.prettyshiny.org

                                    @cloudhop @xgranade Any time I see 'serial entrepreneur' the first thought is 'okay so what happened to all their other ventures'.

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                                    @jacel @cloudhop @xgranade Chopped up and buried in the basement.

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                                    • zdl@mstdn.socialZ zdl@mstdn.social

                                      @cloudhop I've heard the claim from my SO that he gets about 12 lines of code in the final product per day. Is that true? If so, it's definitely not typing speed that restricts him since he types waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster than me and I type waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster than most of my colleagues.

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                                      @ZDL @cloudhop This is a metric that I’ve heard in different contexts and it bears out in almost every project I’ve contributed to. It’s 10-14 lines of code that eventually make it into the finished product. On average, if programmers write 100 lines per day, 90 of them will be changed eventually.

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                                      • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                                        It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                                        @cloudhop Software development is about as typing constrained as storytelling.

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                                        • cloudhop@equestria.socialC cloudhop@equestria.social

                                          It's either very funny or very depressing to watch executives trip over themselves to prove who has the worst understanding of what software development actually entails.

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                                          @cloudhop seriously... I spent far longer planning and designing a complex embedded system than actually coding it. Typing in the code is the easy part.

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