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  • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

    The Strait of Hormuz is an energy chokepoint. A world running on renewable energy has far fewer such prominent chokepoints. Even with the same war scenario,

    "Governments would be less exposed to sudden demands to subsidise fuels and an inflationary shock.

    Energy security would become less about controlling distant shipping lanes, and more about building a distributed and resilient domestic electricity grid, more storage capacity and diversified supply chains."

    https://theconversation.com/how-would-the-iran-crisis-play-out-in-a-world-powered-by-renewables-not-fossil-fuels-277537

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    @CelloMomOnCars

    But what would all The Pimps of the Pumps do? All those fossil fools without their revenue? They couldn't poison enough people fast enough with microplastics and CO2 pollution if we get off of oil

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    • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

      The Strait of Hormuz is an energy chokepoint. A world running on renewable energy has far fewer such prominent chokepoints. Even with the same war scenario,

      "Governments would be less exposed to sudden demands to subsidise fuels and an inflationary shock.

      Energy security would become less about controlling distant shipping lanes, and more about building a distributed and resilient domestic electricity grid, more storage capacity and diversified supply chains."

      https://theconversation.com/how-would-the-iran-crisis-play-out-in-a-world-powered-by-renewables-not-fossil-fuels-277537

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      #10

      "As the war in Iran sends global fuel prices soaring, the U.S. Dept. of Justice has released a legal opinion claiming that Trump has the authority to override California laws and regulations that have blocked a controversial offshore oil operation by invoking the Defense Production Act.

      Sable’s proposal has generated intense resistance, particularly because it seeks to restart a pipeline that ruptured in 2015, causing one of the biggest oil spills in state history."

      https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-03-07/trump-administration-sets-stage-controversial-offshore-oil-plan

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      • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

        "As the war in Iran sends global fuel prices soaring, the U.S. Dept. of Justice has released a legal opinion claiming that Trump has the authority to override California laws and regulations that have blocked a controversial offshore oil operation by invoking the Defense Production Act.

        Sable’s proposal has generated intense resistance, particularly because it seeks to restart a pipeline that ruptured in 2015, causing one of the biggest oil spills in state history."

        https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-03-07/trump-administration-sets-stage-controversial-offshore-oil-plan

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        "Saudi Arabia has joined Kuwait and Iraq in beginning the process of drawing down oil production, a response to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and a shortage of storage options."

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          "Saudi Arabia has joined Kuwait and Iraq in beginning the process of drawing down oil production, a response to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and a shortage of storage options."

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          Electricity prices are spiking in the UK because they are determined by gas prices, and those are spiking.

          "By far the cheapest component of our energy supply is the electricity produced by renewables, principally wind and solar.

          The war on Iran has put fossil-fuel prices centre stage, but don’t believe those who tout ‘maximising the North Sea’ as our salvation."

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          UK energy prices are soaring – and propagandists want to sell you a false reason why | George Monbiot

          The war on Iran has put fossil-fuel prices centre stage, but don’t believe those who tout ‘maximising the North Sea’ as our salvation, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot

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            Electricity prices are spiking in the UK because they are determined by gas prices, and those are spiking.

            "By far the cheapest component of our energy supply is the electricity produced by renewables, principally wind and solar.

            The war on Iran has put fossil-fuel prices centre stage, but don’t believe those who tout ‘maximising the North Sea’ as our salvation."

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            UK energy prices are soaring – and propagandists want to sell you a false reason why | George Monbiot

            The war on Iran has put fossil-fuel prices centre stage, but don’t believe those who tout ‘maximising the North Sea’ as our salvation, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot

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            @CelloMomOnCars UK generation just now.

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            • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

              @CelloMomOnCars UK generation just now.

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              @TimWardCam

              COOL!

              But it's that small blue bar that determines the price for all of it.

              Difficult to think of a more insane scheme to set electricity rates, if you ask me.

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                @CelloMomOnCars UK generation just now.

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                @TimWardCam @CelloMomOnCars Was that chart designed to look like a finger up to the UK consumer?

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                  @TimWardCam

                  COOL!

                  But it's that small blue bar that determines the price for all of it.

                  Difficult to think of a more insane scheme to set electricity rates, if you ask me.

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                  @CelloMomOnCars @TimWardCam The fact that the bid price from the gas generators sets the wholesale price is ridiculous but if you let the far cheaper renewables set the price the gas generators would go bust.

                  Sounds like the solution is more renewables, storage, grid capacity and lets price gas and oil out of existence. But what do I know.

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                  • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

                    Electricity prices are spiking in the UK because they are determined by gas prices, and those are spiking.

                    "By far the cheapest component of our energy supply is the electricity produced by renewables, principally wind and solar.

                    The war on Iran has put fossil-fuel prices centre stage, but don’t believe those who tout ‘maximising the North Sea’ as our salvation."

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                    UK energy prices are soaring – and propagandists want to sell you a false reason why | George Monbiot

                    The war on Iran has put fossil-fuel prices centre stage, but don’t believe those who tout ‘maximising the North Sea’ as our salvation, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot

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                    "The effective closure of the strait [stops] 20 million barrels per day (mmb/d) from global oil supply, or about 20 % of global petroleum liquids consumption. To put that in perspective, the Arab Oil Embargo of the 1970s removed 4 mmb/d from the global oil market, or just 7 % of consumption at that time.

                    Member states of the International Energy Agency (IEA) agreed this week to release 400 mmb of oil reserves."

                    That's 20 days of Strait of Hormuz throughput.

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                    Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, and an Unprecedented Energy Crunch | Council on Foreign Relations

                    CFR President Michael Froman discusses the unfolding global energy crisis with CFR’s Dan Poneman and the Center on Global Energy Policy’s Jason Bordoff, all of whom worked together on the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve 2011 release.

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                      "The effective closure of the strait [stops] 20 million barrels per day (mmb/d) from global oil supply, or about 20 % of global petroleum liquids consumption. To put that in perspective, the Arab Oil Embargo of the 1970s removed 4 mmb/d from the global oil market, or just 7 % of consumption at that time.

                      Member states of the International Energy Agency (IEA) agreed this week to release 400 mmb of oil reserves."

                      That's 20 days of Strait of Hormuz throughput.

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                      Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, and an Unprecedented Energy Crunch | Council on Foreign Relations

                      CFR President Michael Froman discusses the unfolding global energy crisis with CFR’s Dan Poneman and the Center on Global Energy Policy’s Jason Bordoff, all of whom worked together on the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve 2011 release.

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                      @CelloMomOnCars It's nearer 15% once you factor in oil that can be diverted by pipelines but is cheaper to ship by tanker. It's then a bit less because Chinese ships are permitted to pass as are Russian ones (at least until they seriously mine it versus using missiles).

                      In the other direction though the Houthis are threatening the routes via Suez.

                      More of a problem is food into the middle east.

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                      • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

                        "The effective closure of the strait [stops] 20 million barrels per day (mmb/d) from global oil supply, or about 20 % of global petroleum liquids consumption. To put that in perspective, the Arab Oil Embargo of the 1970s removed 4 mmb/d from the global oil market, or just 7 % of consumption at that time.

                        Member states of the International Energy Agency (IEA) agreed this week to release 400 mmb of oil reserves."

                        That's 20 days of Strait of Hormuz throughput.

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                        Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, and an Unprecedented Energy Crunch | Council on Foreign Relations

                        CFR President Michael Froman discusses the unfolding global energy crisis with CFR’s Dan Poneman and the Center on Global Energy Policy’s Jason Bordoff, all of whom worked together on the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve 2011 release.

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                        Paul Krugman says that American drivers will feel the pain most, as they drive the least efficient fossil fueled cars - mostly SUVs -and there are relatively few EVs in the country.

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                          Paul Krugman says that American drivers will feel the pain most, as they drive the least efficient fossil fueled cars - mostly SUVs -and there are relatively few EVs in the country.

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                          @CelloMomOnCars Good. Chickens coming home to shit all over their monstrous, resource-wasting, ecosystem-destroying penis substitutes.

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                            @CelloMomOnCars It's nearer 15% once you factor in oil that can be diverted by pipelines but is cheaper to ship by tanker. It's then a bit less because Chinese ships are permitted to pass as are Russian ones (at least until they seriously mine it versus using missiles).

                            In the other direction though the Houthis are threatening the routes via Suez.

                            More of a problem is food into the middle east.

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                            @etchedpixels

                            There is also the matter of agricultural fertiliser, a fossil fuel product.
                            Also helium, much used in semiconductor manufacturing.

                            The price of food and electronic thingys about to rise.

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                              Paul Krugman says that American drivers will feel the pain most, as they drive the least efficient fossil fueled cars - mostly SUVs -and there are relatively few EVs in the country.

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                              HALF of the production of urea, the world's most used fertiliser, made from fossil gas, has been disrupted.

                              The global food shock could be larger than that brought on by the war in Ukraine.

                              Translation: Food prices will rise.

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                                Electricity prices are spiking in the UK because they are determined by gas prices, and those are spiking.

                                "By far the cheapest component of our energy supply is the electricity produced by renewables, principally wind and solar.

                                The war on Iran has put fossil-fuel prices centre stage, but don’t believe those who tout ‘maximising the North Sea’ as our salvation."

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                                UK energy prices are soaring – and propagandists want to sell you a false reason why | George Monbiot

                                The war on Iran has put fossil-fuel prices centre stage, but don’t believe those who tout ‘maximising the North Sea’ as our salvation, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot

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                                @CelloMomOnCars Greenpeace have a plan to bring down electricity prices by decoupling them from gas prices: https://www.greenpeace.org.uk/resources/power-shift-report/

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                                  HALF of the production of urea, the world's most used fertiliser, made from fossil gas, has been disrupted.

                                  The global food shock could be larger than that brought on by the war in Ukraine.

                                  Translation: Food prices will rise.

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                                  I wonder if this could force a scramble for alternatives. (Trying to look for an upside.)

                                  @CelloMomOnCars

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                                    @CelloMomOnCars @TimWardCam The fact that the bid price from the gas generators sets the wholesale price is ridiculous but if you let the far cheaper renewables set the price the gas generators would go bust.

                                    Sounds like the solution is more renewables, storage, grid capacity and lets price gas and oil out of existence. But what do I know.

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                                    While there still are fossil fuel plants on the grid, every wind, solar and especially battery installation has excellent return on investment. That's why it makes sense to set the price on margin - to incentivize clean build-out.
                                    @rbphotographic @CelloMomOnCars @TimWardCam

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                                      I wonder if this could force a scramble for alternatives. (Trying to look for an upside.)

                                      @CelloMomOnCars

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                                      @hamishb

                                      A scramble is certainly happening in the energy space, everything from "let's build nuclear" to "let's go back to work from home".

                                      Non-fossil-fueled agriculture is there waiting to be deployed, from traditional methods optimised to the local conditions to newer ideas like permaculture. In the short term, yields will still be down.

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                                        While there still are fossil fuel plants on the grid, every wind, solar and especially battery installation has excellent return on investment. That's why it makes sense to set the price on margin - to incentivize clean build-out.
                                        @rbphotographic @CelloMomOnCars @TimWardCam

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                                        @osma @rbphotographic @TimWardCam

                                        There must be better ways to incentivise clean energy than by households getting smacked on the head every time the price of gas goes up.

                                        We all know which households get hit hardest.

                                        There is a plethora of ways the UK government subsidises fossil fuels: let them retool those for clean energy.

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                                          @osma @rbphotographic @TimWardCam

                                          There must be better ways to incentivise clean energy than by households getting smacked on the head every time the price of gas goes up.

                                          We all know which households get hit hardest.

                                          There is a plethora of ways the UK government subsidises fossil fuels: let them retool those for clean energy.

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                                          Well, yes, removing all the subsidies on fossil fuel and slapping them with the full impact of carbon pricing would certainly incentivize shutting those down. But then you'd not be paying high price for electricity when demand is high - you'd not have enough electricity supply. It's not an easy problem. Building more renewables and storage will solve it, but it takes time.
                                          @CelloMomOnCars @rbphotographic @TimWardCam

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