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You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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  • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

    @jaseg @kepeken
    Folx, don't accuse other people of slop if you're basing on vibes only.

    As @pgcd mentioned “AI” extrusions are designed to mimic human works.

    And yes, you can fondle a prompt to do this, yet I would argue that there is less chance for an “AI”-critical person to do this.

    pgcd@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #13

    @dzwiedziu well said.

    Also, TBH, this is one case where I agree with the message enough that I'd be sharing it even if it had been written by Elmo Skum.

    @jaseg @kepeken

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    • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

      You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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      gtaepic14001@mastodon.social
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      @beyondmachines1

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      • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

        You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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        rijim@mastodon.social
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        #15

        @beyondmachines1 Don't forget that AI consumes power and water but is not a consumer and will not be buying products and services in the way that people would. Thus, CEOs have sufficiently increased the cost of creating products and services and have completely eliminated income from consumers who can no longer buy them. Lose lose.

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        • fightscore@mastodon.socialF fightscore@mastodon.social

          @beyondmachines1 To be fair, AI has its use, right? Maybe the business model just got to be better, maybe token count might need tweaking -- maybe put weight to something like output value, rather than input/output count.
          To be sure, AI should not replace humans, rather augment us.

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          @fightscore @beyondmachines1 Real AI sure, but the stochastic parrot LLMs not so much. I used to call them "machine lying" but lying requires knowledge of true and false and LLMs do not have that.

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          • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

            @beyondmachines1
            And maybe 40% of the time it's garbage, but plausible. Without the experts you fired, you don't know when it's wrong.

            So even if it was free, it would only really be a toy.

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            @raymaccarthy @beyondmachines1 It's really expected - they're just adhering to the hype that Generative Autocomplete can do all things humans do. If they were at least adopting it as a *tool* and not joining that specific hype, they'd be able to see that problem right away, or at least avoid it...

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            • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

              You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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              @beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

              this isnt going to matter to any c suite retards until ai bankrupts a large company (which seems unlikely) and they start a trend of posting on linkedin about the problem.
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              • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                @beyondmachines1 Perfect - now CEOs can have fun

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                • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                  You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                  @BeyondMachines :verified: in particular the part regarding the complete access always leaves me baffled. i still remember a time when nearly all business emails had footers consisting of something like an NDA:
                  this is confidential. if you recieved this mail in error, shoot yourself, delete the mail and burn all your computers.
                  and now every manager is happily handing out everything to google, microsoft, agentic ai aso.
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                  • toriver@mas.toT toriver@mas.to

                    @fightscore @beyondmachines1 Real AI sure, but the stochastic parrot LLMs not so much. I used to call them "machine lying" but lying requires knowledge of true and false and LLMs do not have that.

                    fh0@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1 sounds like you never experienced an LLM finding the source of a production bug based on log files, code and given context, in less than 10min where you would have needed at least half a day

                    iakobsdesamos@xarxa.cloudI ballalloi@livellosegreto.itB kgmadee2@mathstodon.xyzK mycotropic@beige.partyM lackthereof@beige.partyL 5 Replies Last reply
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                    • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                      You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                      @beyondmachines1 forget about bitcoin, AI tokens are the new currency.

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                      • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                        You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                        @beyondmachines1 me at work:"Hey that AI icon thing on Jira, is that new?"
                        Guy in charge:" Oh we don't know why Atlassian turned it on. We definitely don't want people to use it because Atlassian says it's 'free for now' and won't tell us what it will cost later.. We don't want people to get used to it if we can't predict the cost."
                        The day after, the icon was gone. Not everyone in tech is a mindless drone. I usually like ny job.

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                        • fightscore@mastodon.socialF fightscore@mastodon.social

                          @beyondmachines1 To be fair, AI has its use, right? Maybe the business model just got to be better, maybe token count might need tweaking -- maybe put weight to something like output value, rather than input/output count.
                          To be sure, AI should not replace humans, rather augment us.

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                          @fightscore

                          No. GenAI just needs to die.

                          https://social.saarland/@fedithom/112455121136790239
                          @beyondmachines1

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                          • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                            You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

                            rejzor@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @beyondmachines1 I just wish it would blow up in their faces more spectacularly. Like, with a bigger boom and not "quiet realization".

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                            • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                              You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                              @beyondmachines1

                              True…

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                              • fh0@mastodon.socialF fh0@mastodon.social

                                @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1 sounds like you never experienced an LLM finding the source of a production bug based on log files, code and given context, in less than 10min where you would have needed at least half a day

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                                @fh0 @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1 and finding that bug is worth all the fucking misery that it brings? I'm so fed up with this argument, things don't exist in a void and magnitude matters. Please, use your brains and stop embarrassing yourselves before you use that goddamn argument again. Please.

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                                • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                                  You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                                  @beyondmachines1 the absolute irony that that post was written by an LLM.

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                                  • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                                    You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

                                    retiredmedicus@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @beyondmachines1
                                    "A well said statement of truth. The AI bots programming is created by a human being for the purpose of replacing the human workforce."
                                    Does it make sense to put your future into a universal "black-hole"?

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                                    • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                                      You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

                                      crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @beyondmachines1 Sounds like my unlimited data plan when I run into my data limit.

                                      Can't even ping.

                                      I actually never even thought about the emergencies. When me and the rest of the team is staying at 10PM because something broke and some giant customer is upset. Stting there trying to think what could have happened. What's going on. How to fix it. How to fix it without breaking anything else...

                                      Granted, a lot of us just say "Fuck, whatever," to that last bit. That's how I imagine AI do.

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                                      • fh0@mastodon.socialF fh0@mastodon.social

                                        @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1 sounds like you never experienced an LLM finding the source of a production bug based on log files, code and given context, in less than 10min where you would have needed at least half a day

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                                        @fh0

                                        The thing is that you will spend half a day working on something else anyway so what's the point?

                                        @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1

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                                        • fightscore@mastodon.socialF fightscore@mastodon.social

                                          @beyondmachines1 To be fair, AI has its use, right? Maybe the business model just got to be better, maybe token count might need tweaking -- maybe put weight to something like output value, rather than input/output count.
                                          To be sure, AI should not replace humans, rather augment us.

                                          tattie@eldritch.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @fightscore issuing correction on the above post, regarding the fascist-run planet-killing slop machines. you do not, under any circumstances, 'gotta hand it to them.'
                                          @beyondmachines1

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