Not against #Fedora, #Linux, or even @UniversalBlue at all, but I don't recommend using Linux on laptops at all.
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Not against #Fedora, #Linux, or even @UniversalBlue at all, but I don't recommend using Linux on laptops at all.
On desktops? Yeah, it works great. On Laptop, however, I've never got someone who said that his laptops works flawlessly. There is always a catch: webcams, ports, trackpad, speakers, suspend/hibernation.
I'll always recommend a #MacBook instead, over any Linux laptop that is not 100% certified to work.
#FOSS #OSS #Debian #Ubuntu #Arch #LinuxMint ##Manjaro #CachyOS #Bazzite #Bluefin
@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue
Running Kubuntu 25.10 flawlessly on my HP Elitebook, everything just works.
Maybe I'm just lucky.
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@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue I wonder why is that? I've a laptop and I'm always getting issues with hardware driver's. Why is #Linux focusing on desktop?
@talldudelifestyle @UniversalBlue AFAIK, it's because manufacturers don't like to follow standards, especially suspend/hibernate.
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Not against #Fedora, #Linux, or even @UniversalBlue at all, but I don't recommend using Linux on laptops at all.
On desktops? Yeah, it works great. On Laptop, however, I've never got someone who said that his laptops works flawlessly. There is always a catch: webcams, ports, trackpad, speakers, suspend/hibernation.
I'll always recommend a #MacBook instead, over any Linux laptop that is not 100% certified to work.
#FOSS #OSS #Debian #Ubuntu #Arch #LinuxMint ##Manjaro #CachyOS #Bazzite #Bluefin
@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue been running stock #Debian on laptops for years. Except for a 30 year old Dell which had a proprietary sound card that only worked in Windows 95/98, everything has always worked. I can't remember the last bit of hardware that didn't work out of the box.
Can't really comment on macOS, other than to say I'm running Debian on some old Macs that Apple no longer supports.
My in-laws are all running #Linux without issue.
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@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue
?? Debian works great on my 2012 Macbook, inherited from my wife after she upgraded. It's slow to boot but acceptably fast after. I've got no complaints about the Ubuntu on my Framework 13. I ran earlier versions of Debian on Lenovo machines without major issues.
@lemgandi @UniversalBlue Your honor, the defense moves to exclude "Evidence MacBook Wife" and "Evidence Framework 13".
While the prosecution claims is relevant, the probative value is minimal because these laptops have an stable, universally known or curated hardware. These represent a tiny fraction of the entire market of laptops, let alone not being available under $1,000.
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Not against #Fedora, #Linux, or even @UniversalBlue at all, but I don't recommend using Linux on laptops at all.
On desktops? Yeah, it works great. On Laptop, however, I've never got someone who said that his laptops works flawlessly. There is always a catch: webcams, ports, trackpad, speakers, suspend/hibernation.
I'll always recommend a #MacBook instead, over any Linux laptop that is not 100% certified to work.
#FOSS #OSS #Debian #Ubuntu #Arch #LinuxMint ##Manjaro #CachyOS #Bazzite #Bluefin
@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue I have Linux Mint running on a Lenovo T460s. Works very well and fast. Only thing it does not support, is the fingerprint sensor.
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@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue I have a HP G4 and use Fedora. I only can't talk about hibernate cause i don't use it. Beside that, every thing works perfect, even suspention.
@raphagm @UniversalBlue How much your laptop costed?
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@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue
Running Kubuntu 25.10 flawlessly on my HP Elitebook, everything just works.
Maybe I'm just lucky.
️@spacemadness @UniversalBlue I have the theory that Linux has more chances to work on hardware that's above $1,500.
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Not against #Fedora, #Linux, or even @UniversalBlue at all, but I don't recommend using Linux on laptops at all.
On desktops? Yeah, it works great. On Laptop, however, I've never got someone who said that his laptops works flawlessly. There is always a catch: webcams, ports, trackpad, speakers, suspend/hibernation.
I'll always recommend a #MacBook instead, over any Linux laptop that is not 100% certified to work.
#FOSS #OSS #Debian #Ubuntu #Arch #LinuxMint ##Manjaro #CachyOS #Bazzite #Bluefin
@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue I've used multiple distros on multiple laptops including Surface Go and Chuwi Minibook and 15 year old Acers. I don't recall having issues, other than my modern devices not being as keen on X11.
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@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue been running stock #Debian on laptops for years. Except for a 30 year old Dell which had a proprietary sound card that only worked in Windows 95/98, everything has always worked. I can't remember the last bit of hardware that didn't work out of the box.
Can't really comment on macOS, other than to say I'm running Debian on some old Macs that Apple no longer supports.
My in-laws are all running #Linux without issue.
@drajt @UniversalBlue May be is just me recommending Linux on cheap craptops, I mean laptops.
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@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue I've used multiple distros on multiple laptops including Surface Go and Chuwi Minibook and 15 year old Acers. I don't recall having issues, other than my modern devices not being as keen on X11.
@robj @UniversalBlue Didn't expect a Chuwi Minibook on Linux, but on a 15 old Acer? I guess most quirks should have been fixed by now lol
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@spacemadness @UniversalBlue I have the theory that Linux has more chances to work on hardware that's above $1,500.
@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue
Maybe, that's why I always buy used.
$400 Cdn 32gb ram, very fast running linux, but to be fair it was also fast running Windows 11 too.
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@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue I have Linux Mint running on a Lenovo T460s. Works very well and fast. Only thing it does not support, is the fingerprint sensor.
@mcm_63 @UniversalBlue Well, that's expected since each fingerprint sensor manufacturer does "his own thing". Also, that Lenovo T460s was $1,200, I belive craptops don't get so lucky with Linux (at least, most of the time).
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@drajt @UniversalBlue May be is just me recommending Linux on cheap craptops, I mean laptops.
@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue I don't deny that some laptops have screwy hardware and come with special builds, such that stock Windows won't work either, but I've not dealt with any myself.
Certainly Dell, HP, Asus, Acer and a couple of generic Chinese designs have all worked perfectly for me in the last 25 years. I've obviously not tried everything, or indeed that many devices from the vendors I've mentioned, but everything just works in my experience.
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@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue
Maybe, that's why I always buy used.
$400 Cdn 32gb ram, very fast running linux, but to be fair it was also fast running Windows 11 too.
@spacemadness @UniversalBlue CDN $400!? Did you threaten someone?
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Not against #Fedora, #Linux, or even @UniversalBlue at all, but I don't recommend using Linux on laptops at all.
On desktops? Yeah, it works great. On Laptop, however, I've never got someone who said that his laptops works flawlessly. There is always a catch: webcams, ports, trackpad, speakers, suspend/hibernation.
I'll always recommend a #MacBook instead, over any Linux laptop that is not 100% certified to work.
#FOSS #OSS #Debian #Ubuntu #Arch #LinuxMint ##Manjaro #CachyOS #Bazzite #Bluefin
@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue My laptop works flawlessly with #Debian GNU/Linux.
There you are.
The first laptop I ever bought in about 2002 also worked flawlessly with #gnulinux
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@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue I don't deny that some laptops have screwy hardware and come with special builds, such that stock Windows won't work either, but I've not dealt with any myself.
Certainly Dell, HP, Asus, Acer and a couple of generic Chinese designs have all worked perfectly for me in the last 25 years. I've obviously not tried everything, or indeed that many devices from the vendors I've mentioned, but everything just works in my experience.
@drajt @UniversalBlue Maybe their models are different in Latam, only explanation I could have on why I always encounter problems while poeple on the first world do not.
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@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue My laptop works flawlessly with #Debian GNU/Linux.
There you are.
The first laptop I ever bought in about 2002 also worked flawlessly with #gnulinux
@ecadre @UniversalBlue Eager to know specs and country of origin.
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@spacemadness @UniversalBlue CDN $400!? Did you threaten someone?
@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue
Haha no. Lots of companies replace their laptops every couple of years so their are plenty of places to find used ones and the good thing is they are usually pretty high end business machines.
But I did get lucky with the 32gb of ram.
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Not against #Fedora, #Linux, or even @UniversalBlue at all, but I don't recommend using Linux on laptops at all.
On desktops? Yeah, it works great. On Laptop, however, I've never got someone who said that his laptops works flawlessly. There is always a catch: webcams, ports, trackpad, speakers, suspend/hibernation.
I'll always recommend a #MacBook instead, over any Linux laptop that is not 100% certified to work.
#FOSS #OSS #Debian #Ubuntu #Arch #LinuxMint ##Manjaro #CachyOS #Bazzite #Bluefin
i concede that it hasn't been flawless, but hibernation issues are the only hardware issue i've had with fedora on laptops (mainly cheap HP and lenovos) i've had issues with debian on new laptops, but that's to be expected because of the old kernel
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@ecadre @UniversalBlue Eager to know specs and country of origin.
@darkghosthunter @UniversalBlue It doesn't really matter much. Just buy from manufacturers who support GNU/Linux, or where GNU/Linux support can be demonstrated.
The one I have now is a Thinkpad (using an external wirless "dongle" since I use the Linux-Libre kernel), and the one from 2002 was a Toshiba Satellite that ran SUSE and then Debian. I took an educated gamble at that time since compatibility was harder to research in those days.
