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Unlike my floppy drive box, only a single goat has pissed on my PCjr box

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  • C crazyc@mastodon.social

    @gloriouscow The 8257 is pretty mid, good thing IBM used the somewhat better 8237.

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    @crazyc 😛

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      Will it turn on, or will it explode?

      #retrocomputing

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      I'm currently having all the wireless IBM Keyboard Adventures, and you're not. Jealous?

      I'm sitting about ten feet away from the peanut and the keyboard seems to work just fine. Although, this is a fresh set of batteries, and it's relatively dim in here because I live like some kind of techno-troll.

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        @gloriouscow The 8257 is pretty mid, good thing IBM used the somewhat better 8237.

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        @crazyc you ever consider how many neurons you're using to remember intel peripheral chip numbers

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          I'm currently having all the wireless IBM Keyboard Adventures, and you're not. Jealous?

          I'm sitting about ten feet away from the peanut and the keyboard seems to work just fine. Although, this is a fresh set of batteries, and it's relatively dim in here because I live like some kind of techno-troll.

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          obviously there's zero authentication to an IR keyboard.

          it would be fun to make a tiny little emitter that could send text to a PCjr and then find the next person exhibiting one at VCF and send them messages from a few tables over.

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            @crazyc you ever consider how many neurons you're using to remember intel peripheral chip numbers

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            @gloriouscow Lets talk about the 8274, 8256 and 82720. Or better, lets not. (the 8256 is required to emulate the Philips :Yes and I don't wanna do it)

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            • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

              obviously there's zero authentication to an IR keyboard.

              it would be fun to make a tiny little emitter that could send text to a PCjr and then find the next person exhibiting one at VCF and send them messages from a few tables over.

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              IBM mentions in passing in the technical reference that you could make other IR accessories for the system, but it was up to you to figure it out and the timings were tailored around the keyboard.

              I'm not sure if anyone ever did - at least I'm not aware of any 3rd party IR accessories.

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              • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                IBM mentions in passing in the technical reference that you could make other IR accessories for the system, but it was up to you to figure it out and the timings were tailored around the keyboard.

                I'm not sure if anyone ever did - at least I'm not aware of any 3rd party IR accessories.

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                There's a fun video of LGR experiencing some ... issues with his PCjr IR port.

                The beeping was an intentional feature by IBM to inform you that you had a bad keyboard signal. A beep occurs if the system receives a parity or phase error.

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                  There's a fun video of LGR experiencing some ... issues with his PCjr IR port.

                  The beeping was an intentional feature by IBM to inform you that you had a bad keyboard signal. A beep occurs if the system receives a parity or phase error.

                  "I hate and love you so much" is something that I feel deeply

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                  Because I am very normal I needed to see if I can read the PCjr keyboard IR protocol with a light pen.

                  #retrocomputing

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                  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                    Because I am very normal I needed to see if I can read the PCjr keyboard IR protocol with a light pen.

                    #retrocomputing

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                    The IR signal is biphase-encoded. You can't really have the IR blasting all the time, and an absence of light isn't meaningful either, so quick pairs of light pulses signify meaningful data.

                    The first pulse is always 1, being the start bit. The start bit establishes the beginning of a series of 9 windows to follow, called bitcells. If a pulse appears at the start of a bitcell, it is a 1. if a pulse appears in the second half of a bitcell, it is a 0.

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                    • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                      Will it turn on, or will it explode?

                      #retrocomputing

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                      @gloriouscow
                      Yes. It definitely will.

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                        The IR signal is biphase-encoded. You can't really have the IR blasting all the time, and an absence of light isn't meaningful either, so quick pairs of light pulses signify meaningful data.

                        The first pulse is always 1, being the start bit. The start bit establishes the beginning of a series of 9 windows to follow, called bitcells. If a pulse appears at the start of a bitcell, it is a 1. if a pulse appears in the second half of a bitcell, it is a 0.

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                        The scancode is sent LSB first, after a start bit, and a parity bit follows.

                        So our scancode is 0b0001_1110 or 1E.
                        What key is that?

                        MartyKey::KeyA => Some(0x1E),

                        It's A! So, I assume that if I wire up the light pen to the keyboard port, we can use it as an IR receiver.

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                        • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                          The scancode is sent LSB first, after a start bit, and a parity bit follows.

                          So our scancode is 0b0001_1110 or 1E.
                          What key is that?

                          MartyKey::KeyA => Some(0x1E),

                          It's A! So, I assume that if I wire up the light pen to the keyboard port, we can use it as an IR receiver.

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                          This shouldn't really be a major surprise to anyone, considering the light pen is essentially made of the same things - a photodiode and some filtering circuitry.

                          But it's just stupid enough to make me happy.

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