Good morning!
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How do we pay for the fediverse? Co-ops, subscriptions, donations, even advertising (gasp). They don't have to all be federated with each other - just to the communities that make sense for their needs.
I'm starting to hear this more often. Newsmast group is thinking similarly as well.
The fediverse does have connections to larger social platforms, showing interest in connecting to the larger audience. Flipboard and Surf are great examples of ways to incorporate fediverse content into mainstream social timelines.
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The fediverse does have connections to larger social platforms, showing interest in connecting to the larger audience. Flipboard and Surf are great examples of ways to incorporate fediverse content into mainstream social timelines.
"We'll know that the fediverse wins...when mainstream media starts showing posts from users in the fediverse rather than X, Facebook, etc."
We've already seen some of this with Bluesky, but he's right, not sure I've seen a Fediverse handle out there yet.
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"We'll know that the fediverse wins...when mainstream media starts showing posts from users in the fediverse rather than X, Facebook, etc."
We've already seen some of this with Bluesky, but he's right, not sure I've seen a Fediverse handle out there yet.
Evan: "Finally, we need policy makers to do the work to require interoperability."
Yep. Canada, you have more of a chance than the U.S.
Jeff Note: Sometimes the policy has to start small - get your local library to crate a fediverse account. Your fire department. Your city hall. Help them get setup if you can.
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Not knowing exactly what the fediverse or open social web is - isn't a bad thing - we have a blank slate. That's a good thing.
How do we introduce normies to the fediverse?
The current fediverse culture isn't as welcoming. And there are UI issues that need to be addressed. Even small UI issues can push people away - an accidental posting of a private post to a public timeline for example.
@box464 Early-stage networks always confuse architecture with culture. Most people don’t need to understand federation any more than they understand SMTP. They need clarity, guardrails, and social proof. Blank slates are fragile. If onboarding feels like joining a protocol instead of a community, churn follows. The leverage isn’t ideology. It’s interface design and default norms. Reduce friction, make privacy clear, and let belonging precede explanation.
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Evan: "Finally, we need policy makers to do the work to require interoperability."
Yep. Canada, you have more of a chance than the U.S.
Jeff Note: Sometimes the policy has to start small - get your local library to crate a fediverse account. Your fire department. Your city hall. Help them get setup if you can.
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Evan: "Finally, we need policy makers to do the work to require interoperability."
Yep. Canada, you have more of a chance than the U.S.
Jeff Note: Sometimes the policy has to start small - get your local library to crate a fediverse account. Your fire department. Your city hall. Help them get setup if you can.
Alright. A little break and then back to it. However, the last session is in French, so again I won't be of much use.
The Next Phase of Qlub, presented by @meadmin
"A look back at one year of Qlub, a presentation of upcoming initiatives, and the launch of the #Culture Channel, a news feed dedicated to Quebec culture."
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Survey of the normal people - "What is the fediverse?". Oh boy. We've got some work to do, y'all. Tho I'd love it if we were all part of an MCU plot.
Open Social fared a bit better than this.
@box464 looks like we need a comic book
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We're back with @evan - sans mustache. I wasn't ready for this.
He's going back to the basics - Introducing the Fediverse.
@box464 you and me both
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Algorithms are optimized to keep you on platform and engaged. Stay here for EVERYTHING. The platform will decide what's important for you in the moment.
Jeff Side Note: I want to re-iterate that algorithms aren't evil in and of themselves - it's the platforms that manipulate you with their algorithms that are the problem.
@box464 I got to that!
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@box464 I got to that!
@evan You did.
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"We'll know that the fediverse wins...when mainstream media starts showing posts from users in the fediverse rather than X, Facebook, etc."
We've already seen some of this with Bluesky, but he's right, not sure I've seen a Fediverse handle out there yet.
@box464 Thats not true at all. MSM does those ads because they are paid to, its another form of advertising.
In order to achieve that the Fediverse will have to play the same game and be working to make those corporations money for the exposure. That would be a sign not that the Fediverse is winning, but that has parts that are capitulating.
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Evan's not making a great argument for using social media!
52% of users report feeling worse after using social media.
@box464 72% of americans feel worse and more stressed during the holidays. Doesn't mean we should stop having holidays, as they have some very good qualities as well. Definitely means we can change some of our traditions and expectations around those holidays.
47% make up stories to avoid family for Thanksgiving and 67% feel worse for it. Yet there are significant positives to getting together with SOME family.
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Users looking for meaningful connections to other real people. Willing to look outside of large socials for that, moreso every day and with every new generation. Moving to smaller, more meaningful communities.
@box464 "we've never been more lonely" ? oh please. It wasn't that many generations ago that people living in remote places wouldn't even see people for months, or military deployments would be assumed to be years, where contact via phone happened rarely due to cost and rarity, mail was the norm with a postcard or holiday card being the only contact with family.
Are people lonely beyond their comfort level? Sure. But our tolerance to any alone time has also decreased massively.
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This is fully awesome! I'm very interested in it. In fact, I'd probably want to create one such customized app for a community we're building in our town.
Where could I find more information about it! Thanks!!!!
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@hirunatan@xarxa.cloud Please reach out to us or @newsmast@newsmast.social to discuss!
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How do we pay for the fediverse? Co-ops, subscriptions, donations, even advertising (gasp). They don't have to all be federated with each other - just to the communities that make sense for their needs.
I'm starting to hear this more often. Newsmast group is thinking similarly as well.
@box464 I think having choice will have a positive effect on ad-supported networks too. Right now there's very little resistance to cranking up the engagement optimization and ad visibility. If people have realistic choices and actually leave when things get bad, then maybe businesses won't make those changes.
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