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  • box464@mastodon.socialB box464@mastodon.social

    We're back with @evan - sans mustache. I wasn't ready for this.

    He's going back to the basics - Introducing the Fediverse.

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    @box464 you and me both

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    • box464@mastodon.socialB box464@mastodon.social

      Algorithms are optimized to keep you on platform and engaged. Stay here for EVERYTHING. The platform will decide what's important for you in the moment.

      Jeff Side Note: I want to re-iterate that algorithms aren't evil in and of themselves - it's the platforms that manipulate you with their algorithms that are the problem.

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      @box464 I got to that!

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      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

        @box464 I got to that!

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        @evan You did. ๐Ÿ™‚

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        • box464@mastodon.socialB box464@mastodon.social

          "We'll know that the fediverse wins...when mainstream media starts showing posts from users in the fediverse rather than X, Facebook, etc."

          We've already seen some of this with Bluesky, but he's right, not sure I've seen a Fediverse handle out there yet.

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          @box464 Thats not true at all. MSM does those ads because they are paid to, its another form of advertising.

          In order to achieve that the Fediverse will have to play the same game and be working to make those corporations money for the exposure. That would be a sign not that the Fediverse is winning, but that has parts that are capitulating.

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          • box464@mastodon.socialB box464@mastodon.social

            Evan's not making a great argument for using social media!

            52% of users report feeling worse after using social media.

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            @box464 72% of americans feel worse and more stressed during the holidays. Doesn't mean we should stop having holidays, as they have some very good qualities as well. Definitely means we can change some of our traditions and expectations around those holidays.

            47% make up stories to avoid family for Thanksgiving and 67% feel worse for it. Yet there are significant positives to getting together with SOME family.

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            • box464@mastodon.socialB box464@mastodon.social

              Users looking for meaningful connections to other real people. Willing to look outside of large socials for that, moreso every day and with every new generation. Moving to smaller, more meaningful communities.

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              @box464 "we've never been more lonely" ? oh please. It wasn't that many generations ago that people living in remote places wouldn't even see people for months, or military deployments would be assumed to be years, where contact via phone happened rarely due to cost and rarity, mail was the norm with a postcard or holiday card being the only contact with family.

              Are people lonely beyond their comfort level? Sure. But our tolerance to any alone time has also decreased massively.

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              • box464@mastodon.socialB box464@mastodon.social

                @newsmast is working with @Bonfire as a backend as well for their solutions. It's great to see this implementation in progress, I had heard of it before. Curious if they are using the Community flavor.

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                @box464 @newsmast @Bonfire this is FediMTL right? Might have to try to catch their talk. Bonfire definitely has better architecture for their customisable fedi server approach

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                • box464@mastodon.socialB box464@mastodon.social

                  @newsmast is working with @Bonfire as a backend as well for their solutions. It's great to see this implementation in progress, I had heard of it before. Curious if they are using the Community flavor.

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                  @box464 @Bonfire

                  This is fully awesome! I'm very interested in it. In fact, I'd probably want to create one such customized app for a community we're building in our town.

                  Where could I find more information about it! Thanks!!!!

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                    @box464 @Bonfire

                    This is fully awesome! I'm very interested in it. In fact, I'd probably want to create one such customized app for a community we're building in our town.

                    Where could I find more information about it! Thanks!!!!

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                    @hirunatan@xarxa.cloud Please reach out to us or @newsmast@newsmast.social to discuss!

                    @box464@mastodon.social โ€‹

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                    • box464@mastodon.socialB box464@mastodon.social

                      How do we pay for the fediverse? Co-ops, subscriptions, donations, even advertising (gasp). They don't have to all be federated with each other - just to the communities that make sense for their needs.

                      I'm starting to hear this more often. Newsmast group is thinking similarly as well.

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                      @box464 I think having choice will have a positive effect on ad-supported networks too. Right now there's very little resistance to cranking up the engagement optimization and ad visibility. If people have realistic choices and actually leave when things get bad, then maybe businesses won't make those changes.

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