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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    I mean when I check my feed much of the Bluesky eng team seems to be posting about how great Claude is all the time so I have been background wondering how common vibecoding is in that ecosystem

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    @cwebber all of the "ethical" startup types are doing it
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    • ryanrandall@hcommons.socialR ryanrandall@hcommons.social

      @cwebber Earnest and also deeply befuddled question:

      Do you happen to know if this "Why" is the same "Why" who wrote "Why's? (Poignant) Guide to Ruby"?

      (Seems very unlikely to be the same person—but I'm so out of the loop that this name confusion also feels like when people are excitedly talking about the Swedish metal band "Ghost" but I mistakenly think they're excitedly talking about the Japanese experimental psych-folk band "Ghost".)

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      @ryanrandall I honestly thought I was the only person on earth going through that specific Ghost/Ghost confusion

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        Example: https://bsky.app/profile/why.bsky.team/post/3meomclcfss2w

        > Until December of last year I was using LLMs as fancy autocomplete for coding. It was nice for scaffolding out boilerplate, or giving me a gut check on some things, or banging out some boring routine stuff.
        >
        > In the past two months Claude has written about 99% of my code. Things are changing. Fast

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        I have this suspicion that the ATproto stack, at least the stuff from Bluesky, is heading towards "majority-vibecoded" but that's mostly just from seeing a lot of posts from the Bluesky eng team rather than me having spent much time in the codebase

        Why is def hugely responsible for Bluesky/ATProto's design and if *he's* mostly letting Claude write 99% of his code, the rest of the eng team is likely to be heading in that direction too?

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          I have this suspicion that the ATproto stack, at least the stuff from Bluesky, is heading towards "majority-vibecoded" but that's mostly just from seeing a lot of posts from the Bluesky eng team rather than me having spent much time in the codebase

          Why is def hugely responsible for Bluesky/ATProto's design and if *he's* mostly letting Claude write 99% of his code, the rest of the eng team is likely to be heading in that direction too?

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          @cwebber that seems very bsky

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            I mean when I check my feed much of the Bluesky eng team seems to be posting about how great Claude is all the time so I have been background wondering how common vibecoding is in that ecosystem

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            @cwebber @kkarhan The most disappointing thing about AI (in the software development space) is how quickly and gleefully so-called senior engineers abandoned their craft for vibe coding.

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              I have this suspicion that the ATproto stack, at least the stuff from Bluesky, is heading towards "majority-vibecoded" but that's mostly just from seeing a lot of posts from the Bluesky eng team rather than me having spent much time in the codebase

              Why is def hugely responsible for Bluesky/ATProto's design and if *he's* mostly letting Claude write 99% of his code, the rest of the eng team is likely to be heading in that direction too?

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              @cwebber cat can help

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                Example: https://bsky.app/profile/why.bsky.team/post/3meomclcfss2w

                > Until December of last year I was using LLMs as fancy autocomplete for coding. It was nice for scaffolding out boilerplate, or giving me a gut check on some things, or banging out some boring routine stuff.
                >
                > In the past two months Claude has written about 99% of my code. Things are changing. Fast

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                @cwebber so that person is saying he's now developing software in English instead of Typescript and using a very expensive transpiler, right?

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                • andymoose@fedi.aiga.rocksA andymoose@fedi.aiga.rocks

                  @cwebber @kkarhan The most disappointing thing about AI (in the software development space) is how quickly and gleefully so-called senior engineers abandoned their craft for vibe coding.

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                  @andymoose @cwebber @kkarhan@infosec.space why is also a literal neoreactionary, so fashtech keeps being up to the expected quality

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                  • floralia@girlcock.clubF floralia@girlcock.club

                    @cwebber He's the same dev who said it was impossible to prevent users from putting racial slurs in their handles.

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                    @floralia @cwebber literally a vibecamp neoreactionary, so

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      I have this suspicion that the ATproto stack, at least the stuff from Bluesky, is heading towards "majority-vibecoded" but that's mostly just from seeing a lot of posts from the Bluesky eng team rather than me having spent much time in the codebase

                      Why is def hugely responsible for Bluesky/ATProto's design and if *he's* mostly letting Claude write 99% of his code, the rest of the eng team is likely to be heading in that direction too?

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                      @cwebber they're owned by crypto cultists, so it tracks.

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        hm https://github.com/bluesky-social/social-app/blob/main/CLAUDE.md

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                        @cwebber lol this reads like kai lentit "senior engineer tries vibe coding" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2C2CNmK7dQ

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          I have this suspicion that the ATproto stack, at least the stuff from Bluesky, is heading towards "majority-vibecoded" but that's mostly just from seeing a lot of posts from the Bluesky eng team rather than me having spent much time in the codebase

                          Why is def hugely responsible for Bluesky/ATProto's design and if *he's* mostly letting Claude write 99% of his code, the rest of the eng team is likely to be heading in that direction too?

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                          @cwebber Over in ATProto-world, I'm not even seeing most people's profile pictures. They're just showing up as the default icon.

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                          • erincandescent@akko.erincandescent.netE erincandescent@akko.erincandescent.net

                            @cwebber @ryanrandall My memory is that why_ said goodbye and disappeared one day and so we can’t know for sure but it’s unlikely (and if they are the same person, well, they don’t want to be connected)

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                            @erincandescent @ryanrandall @cwebber its not the same Why. They both have photos of their real face on the internet I checked.

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              I have this suspicion that the ATproto stack, at least the stuff from Bluesky, is heading towards "majority-vibecoded" but that's mostly just from seeing a lot of posts from the Bluesky eng team rather than me having spent much time in the codebase

                              Why is def hugely responsible for Bluesky/ATProto's design and if *he's* mostly letting Claude write 99% of his code, the rest of the eng team is likely to be heading in that direction too?

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                              @cwebber before* any judgement on whethe it is a good thing or not, it was expected, tbh. it is very much on brand from their team.
                              they always had the "tech enthusiast" ethos

                              *just before.

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                              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                @andymoose @cwebber @kkarhan@infosec.space why is also a literal neoreactionary, so fashtech keeps being up to the expected quality

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                                @davidgerard @andymoose @cwebber it's always a reasonably safe bet to assume that outspoken LLM proponents have some fash tendencies, even the ones that pretend to be lefties

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                                • pjohanneson@mstdn.caP pjohanneson@mstdn.ca

                                  @cwebber wait wait, the stylng system is called ALF?

                                  Is that because of the legendary Alf Hog Incident? It has to be, right?

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                                  @pjohanneson @cwebber yeah 😉

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    @ryanrandall https://github.com/whyrusleeping

                                    pretty sure not the Ruby "Why" but I don't know for sure

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                                    @cwebber @ryanrandall Nah, definitely a different Why - you can find the Ruby Why's real name and the Bluesky Why's name also appears from time to time and it's not the same name

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      I have this suspicion that the ATproto stack, at least the stuff from Bluesky, is heading towards "majority-vibecoded" but that's mostly just from seeing a lot of posts from the Bluesky eng team rather than me having spent much time in the codebase

                                      Why is def hugely responsible for Bluesky/ATProto's design and if *he's* mostly letting Claude write 99% of his code, the rest of the eng team is likely to be heading in that direction too?

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                                      @cwebber I'm hanging out there a lot and yes there is a lot of vibecoding. However, they don't seem to vibecode more than the average paid software dev.

                                      In 2024, I'd say about 20% of my friends vibecoded. Today the number looks more like 90%. This is not specific to atproto, my understanding is that most people vibecode nowadays.

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        Example: https://bsky.app/profile/why.bsky.team/post/3meomclcfss2w

                                        > Until December of last year I was using LLMs as fancy autocomplete for coding. It was nice for scaffolding out boilerplate, or giving me a gut check on some things, or banging out some boring routine stuff.
                                        >
                                        > In the past two months Claude has written about 99% of my code. Things are changing. Fast

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                                        @cwebber things sure are changing fast. code quality for example. and the ability of developers to write or recognize good code. now the direction of change isn't great, but...

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                                        • res260@infosec.exchangeR res260@infosec.exchange

                                          @cwebber I'm hanging out there a lot and yes there is a lot of vibecoding. However, they don't seem to vibecode more than the average paid software dev.

                                          In 2024, I'd say about 20% of my friends vibecoded. Today the number looks more like 90%. This is not specific to atproto, my understanding is that most people vibecode nowadays.

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                                          @res260 Sadly a likely observation 😕

                                          So many people just giving up on their craft.

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