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It's not weird for some species to incorporate toxins from their diet as defenses: poison dart frogs, monarch butterflies, sea slugs, etc

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  • maryaustinbooks@mstdn.socialM maryaustinbooks@mstdn.social

    @benroyce

    Are we sure the birds aren't just crashing out after reading the New York Times?

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    @MaryAustinBooks

    πŸ˜‚

    you know what?

    you're right

    i removed the nytimes link and replaced it with the linked study from poland

    nytimes link pasted here instead in the comments for posterity:

    nytimes.com

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      It's not weird for some species to incorporate toxins from their diet as defenses: poison dart frogs, monarch butterflies, sea slugs, etc

      But let's get weird and circuitous with it

      #Nicotine was developed by plants to kill insects. As a quirk of #neurochemistry, humans use it addictively, so cigarette butts are everywhere

      Birds have figured out they can use them in their nests to repel insect parasites

      The original intention of nicotine

      Weird!

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      @benroyce Lookit, we eat absolutely weird stuff, plenty of it extremely unpleasant until several elaborate transformations (looking at you, olives). That birds have figured out how to harness poisons to their advantage isn’t a surprise.

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      • wendinoakland@beige.partyW wendinoakland@beige.party

        @benroyce Lookit, we eat absolutely weird stuff, plenty of it extremely unpleasant until several elaborate transformations (looking at you, olives). That birds have figured out how to harness poisons to their advantage isn’t a surprise.

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        @wendinoakland

        if we anthropomorphized plants they would be flabbergasted by humans

        plants developed capsaicin to set the mouths of mammals eating it on fire as punishment

        it seems like a foolproof devastating repellant. the plant must be proud

        but no

        one mammal, humans, *like* the mouth fire

        crazier, this was not detrimental to the plant, but rewarding. humans began cultivating it. even *increasing* the burn

        you poison us. you cause us pain

        we love you for it. and ask for more

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          It's not weird for some species to incorporate toxins from their diet as defenses: poison dart frogs, monarch butterflies, sea slugs, etc

          But let's get weird and circuitous with it

          #Nicotine was developed by plants to kill insects. As a quirk of #neurochemistry, humans use it addictively, so cigarette butts are everywhere

          Birds have figured out they can use them in their nests to repel insect parasites

          The original intention of nicotine

          Weird!

          Link Preview Image
          ScienceDirect

          favicon

          (www.sciencedirect.com)

          #Science #Ecology

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          @benroyce

          Alternately, cigarette butts are so disgusting they can actually repel insects.

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          • glutto@mastodon.socialG glutto@mastodon.social

            @benroyce

            Alternately, cigarette butts are so disgusting they can actually repel insects.

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            @glutto

            insects: "you like... poison? *burning* poison?"

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @wendinoakland

              if we anthropomorphized plants they would be flabbergasted by humans

              plants developed capsaicin to set the mouths of mammals eating it on fire as punishment

              it seems like a foolproof devastating repellant. the plant must be proud

              but no

              one mammal, humans, *like* the mouth fire

              crazier, this was not detrimental to the plant, but rewarding. humans began cultivating it. even *increasing* the burn

              you poison us. you cause us pain

              we love you for it. and ask for more

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              @benroyce Mostly. Then there’s cactus. And the plants with urushiol. There are some we can work with, but they’re metal af.

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              • wendinoakland@beige.partyW wendinoakland@beige.party

                @benroyce Mostly. Then there’s cactus. And the plants with urushiol. There are some we can work with, but they’re metal af.

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                @wendinoakland

                well we looked at cactus with its hardcore intent to cause pain and said

                "pretty"

                but you're right about poison ivy, fuck that plant πŸ˜‚

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @wendinoakland

                  well we looked at cactus with its hardcore intent to cause pain and said

                  "pretty"

                  but you're right about poison ivy, fuck that plant πŸ˜‚

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                  @benroyce Poison oak is the feisty bitch here. Loves to grow right in along with the blackberries.

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                  • wendinoakland@beige.partyW wendinoakland@beige.party

                    @benroyce Poison oak is the feisty bitch here. Loves to grow right in along with the blackberries.

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                    @wendinoakland @benroyce

                    Can't live with it. Can't set it on fire.

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                    • bluedot@left-bank.netB bluedot@left-bank.net

                      @wendinoakland @benroyce

                      Can't live with it. Can't set it on fire.

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                      @BlueDot @wendinoakland

                      it hates us. can't blame it for that. but we can hate it back!

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                      • bluedot@left-bank.netB bluedot@left-bank.net

                        @wendinoakland @benroyce

                        Can't live with it. Can't set it on fire.

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                        @BlueDot @benroyce I’d rather live a shorter, happier life with the things I enjoy, than live forever missing everything.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          It's not weird for some species to incorporate toxins from their diet as defenses: poison dart frogs, monarch butterflies, sea slugs, etc

                          But let's get weird and circuitous with it

                          #Nicotine was developed by plants to kill insects. As a quirk of #neurochemistry, humans use it addictively, so cigarette butts are everywhere

                          Birds have figured out they can use them in their nests to repel insect parasites

                          The original intention of nicotine

                          Weird!

                          Link Preview Image
                          ScienceDirect

                          favicon

                          (www.sciencedirect.com)

                          #Science #Ecology

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                          @benroyce this stuff always has fascinated me! Also extra tidbit… did you know that hedgehogs πŸ¦” have learned this too!!! They will take cigarettes, chew them up a bit, then spread their nicotine filled saliva over their bodies 😹
                          (They also do this with creosote) https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00zd354

                          And don’t forget about the crows that bathe in formic acid from spitting ants! 😹

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                          • wendinoakland@beige.partyW wendinoakland@beige.party

                            @benroyce Poison oak is the feisty bitch here. Loves to grow right in along with the blackberries.

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                            @wendinoakland @benroyce
                            Almost no poison oak in the hills and streams is on my top five for moving to western Washington from the Bay Area.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              It's not weird for some species to incorporate toxins from their diet as defenses: poison dart frogs, monarch butterflies, sea slugs, etc

                              But let's get weird and circuitous with it

                              #Nicotine was developed by plants to kill insects. As a quirk of #neurochemistry, humans use it addictively, so cigarette butts are everywhere

                              Birds have figured out they can use them in their nests to repel insect parasites

                              The original intention of nicotine

                              Weird!

                              Link Preview Image
                              ScienceDirect

                              favicon

                              (www.sciencedirect.com)

                              #Science #Ecology

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                              @benroyce Look at nature continuing to teach humans the right way to live.

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                It's not weird for some species to incorporate toxins from their diet as defenses: poison dart frogs, monarch butterflies, sea slugs, etc

                                But let's get weird and circuitous with it

                                #Nicotine was developed by plants to kill insects. As a quirk of #neurochemistry, humans use it addictively, so cigarette butts are everywhere

                                Birds have figured out they can use them in their nests to repel insect parasites

                                The original intention of nicotine

                                Weird!

                                Link Preview Image
                                ScienceDirect

                                favicon

                                (www.sciencedirect.com)

                                #Science #Ecology

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                                @benroyce will it work on politicians?

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                                • oldfartrant@mstdn.caO oldfartrant@mstdn.ca

                                  @benroyce will it work on politicians?

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                                  @Oldfartrant

                                  unfortunately MAGA likes nicotine chews. so you might attract them

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @Oldfartrant

                                    unfortunately MAGA likes nicotine chews. so you might attract them

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                                    @benroyce so you can attract Trump supporters with poison. No wonder the country is fucked.

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      It's not weird for some species to incorporate toxins from their diet as defenses: poison dart frogs, monarch butterflies, sea slugs, etc

                                      But let's get weird and circuitous with it

                                      #Nicotine was developed by plants to kill insects. As a quirk of #neurochemistry, humans use it addictively, so cigarette butts are everywhere

                                      Birds have figured out they can use them in their nests to repel insect parasites

                                      The original intention of nicotine

                                      Weird!

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      ScienceDirect

                                      favicon

                                      (www.sciencedirect.com)

                                      #Science #Ecology

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                                      @benroyce I first read: poison dog farts πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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                                      • greensoulbuddy@mastodon.socialG greensoulbuddy@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce I first read: poison dog farts πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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                                        @greensoulbuddy

                                        poison dart frogs aren't real. they are a dungeons and dragons monster. if you touch one you get hit with the magic spell "poison dog fart" for 2d12 damage

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @greensoulbuddy

                                          poison dart frogs aren't real. they are a dungeons and dragons monster. if you touch one you get hit with the magic spell "poison dog fart" for 2d12 damage

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                                          @benroyce πŸ˜‚

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